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I saw some comments yesterday about disappointment with Model 3.
Have you canceled your reservation and if so why?
Have you canceled your reservation and if so why?
Have you canceled Model 3 reservation?
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This might be better as a poll.
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Not that I would ever pre-order a car...but I don't know why people would cancel the reservation. There is nothing surprising (good or bad) with the Model 3. Looks like the prototype, range is okay, price is what it was supposed to be, etc... The only negative I could see is the lower-cost version not being available at launch.
No, but thinking about adding a preorder
I cancelled my July 1...main drivers for me was that I saw the good crash test results of the Bolt, drove one and liked it and got a great deal 5K off. With the Telsa my research suggested that the recommended maintenance schedule would probably be silly expensive (the model S is) parts after an accident would be difficult to obtain, and I had really did not like the position of the center screen as it looked like I would damage it too easily.
The reveal made me a little sad...looks like a great car but my concerns are still there and time will tell.
The reveal made me a little sad...looks like a great car but my concerns are still there and time will tell.
The issue I have is, what does the base interior look like?
For $35,000, the base is a decent value, but based on my experiences so far, I'm worried about its range. I really wish they would have just added a couple thousand to the price and made it a 60 kWh battery.
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I think as people's number gets closer you will see cancellations. As the old saying goes, when its time to **** or get off the pot, $1000 in the haze of excitement was easy to come up with for many - finalizing the deal in 6 or 12 months and coming up with the balance may not carry that same excitement anymore.
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No.
Intend to buy Model 3 base.
Disappointed on the paint and Premium package upsell.
Pleasantly surprised on apparent efficiency and no Supercharger access fee.
No interest in performance numbers. Prius-level is good enough for me, Volt-level good enough for wife.
Only the tax credit would make me buy before 2019, so no rush to make any decision right now.
Intend to buy Model 3 base.
Disappointed on the paint and Premium package upsell.
Pleasantly surprised on apparent efficiency and no Supercharger access fee.
No interest in performance numbers. Prius-level is good enough for me, Volt-level good enough for wife.
Only the tax credit would make me buy before 2019, so no rush to make any decision right now.
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Double check that supercharger access fee. My understanding is that Teslas sold after Jan 1 will not have free supercharger access.
There is a supercharger access fee for Model 3, it is public on their site for Model S, assume 3 is the same. Here in Iowa they say $0.16 / min, so 30 min charge would be $4.80 for 170 miles on long distance or 130 miles on base. For long distance model that would be comparable to charging at home.
If I buy one it would have Premium package, paint, and wheels. Not decided on range.
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I submitted my reservation during the initial march 2016 reveal, then cancelled it in April 2016 when I realized the car was about the same size as the volt. My volt is fine as a commuter, but my next car needs to augment toe volt, not be about the same. Yes, I realize the cabin space of the 3 is probably roomier, but lots of cargo flexibility is lost. My next vehicle might be an ELR (commute in style), CT6 plugin (more cabin space), a Voltec CUV, a Model S or x, a Subaru, Suburban, or Land Rover (people, cargo, and towing)
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There is no better car company than Tesla so if you want a lesser car then sure.
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You guys are conflating "access fee" and "pay-per-use".
For early Model S60's, buyers had to pay a $2000-$2500 fee just to have access to (lifetime) Supercharging, but no usage fees after that. Some people thought Tesla would have a similar upfront activation/access fee for the Model 3. Pay-per-use is MUCH more economical.
I am not cancelling!
After seeing videos of the model 3 inside and out, I absolutely love it. I was going to wait and see how the "full self driving" software worked out first. Now I plan to order my 3 as soon as Telsa will let me, and enjoy driving it myself. Life is short!
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After seeing videos of the model 3 inside and out, I absolutely love it. I was going to wait and see how the "full self driving" software worked out first. Now I plan to order my 3 as soon as Telsa will let me, and enjoy driving it myself. Life is short!
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That is an excellent point!
What is a comparison of Cost of Ownership when it comes to Required Routine Maintenance?
That cost is hidden from all new car purchasers, unless they do their home work.
And of course that info needs to be available,, ahem....
Funny !
You do, do you???
And nothing is going to keep you from doing what you 'plan'.
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No. I like the minimalist approach.
The challenge for me is I have a Spark EV on lease until next June. But, if I wait too long, I will most likely have the federal tax incentive cut in 1/2. I too would have liked to see have seen the interior of the base model.
I'm still on the fence with the larger battery. I don't take a lot of long trips, but it might extend the value of the car if I ever resell it. I too was questioning all the secrecy behind the event Friday night for a car that is supposedly in production.
I was doing some spec. comparisons with my Fusion Energi. With the glass roof, it actually has more headroom. It has decent legroom too.
The challenge for me is I have a Spark EV on lease until next June. But, if I wait too long, I will most likely have the federal tax incentive cut in 1/2. I too would have liked to see have seen the interior of the base model.
I'm still on the fence with the larger battery. I don't take a lot of long trips, but it might extend the value of the car if I ever resell it. I too was questioning all the secrecy behind the event Friday night for a car that is supposedly in production.
I was doing some spec. comparisons with my Fusion Energi. With the glass roof, it actually has more headroom. It has decent legroom too.
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Wow, that's fanboy level fanaticism right there - sorry, but gotta be blunt on that one.
Teslas's cars are great, don't get me wrong, and competition in the EV segment is needed and will spur innovation, yes...but to make a blanket statement saying that there's "No better car company" than Tesla is silly.
- The service network is still basically fully proprietary. There's a Big3 dealership about 30 minutes or less away no matter where you might be for the most part, and there's smaller non-dealership facilities usually equally as capable of effecting repairs often closer. Even a podunk little town in the middle of nowhere usually has some sort of auto-repair facility with access to parts. Tesla? When you find yourself 8 or 10 hours (or more, come to Canada!) away from the nearest service centre and you break down, enjoy the tow.
- The parts network is still stupidly tight. Even if you can find a shop willing to work on it third party, you probably won't be able to get the parts to accomplish the job.
- Service manuals and software are still tightly controlled by Tesla, and Tesla alone, so good luck getting much more than a brake job accomplished third party.
And lastly put, Tesla has quality control issues - the cars they have on the road have NOT proven to be problem free. Whereas Sylvester RichGuy might be willing to deal with regular issues and trips to the dealership for repairs on his S or X (He'll just drive the Beemer or the Ferrari in the meantime, no problem), Regular guy Joe Plumber (which of course is the "everyman" the 3 is aimed at) with the Model 3 is going to lose his mind when the same thing happens to him and things don't work, break, lockup/freeze, or fail outright.
In short, the sort of initial quality that has seemingly become the accepted norm with Tesla would result in a horde with flaming pitchforks showing up at the head office of any of the Big3 manufacturers. The fact that Tesla has rushed the 3 to production with little to none of the traditional testing period the Big3 have used to work out the bugs and quirks doesn't lend itself towards the 3 not experiencing many of the same growing pains and strings of problems the S and X have experienced.
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