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https://www.revzilla.com/common-tread/first-look-2020-harley-davidson-livewire

Do motorcycles count? I was so looking forward to this bike but the price blew me out of the water. I was hoping for twenty thousand dollars with an expectation of twenty four thousand but nope, straight for the jugular at thirty thousand.

Compared to the offerings from Zero this Harley makes near zero sense. Zero can offer twice the range and two thirds the price. I figure there is some dealer kick back in this pricing but apparently to even qualify to sell these the dealer must in a Harley approved charging solution which some are reporting at setting back dealers as much as 100k.

Still they are signing up dealers but I am not sure customers will flock to it. 110 mile range on the city cycle, level 3 charging only with the proper equipment. at home it will only support level 1. no word if the battery is air cooled but I doubt that it is liquid cooled. air cooling for zero motorcycles has led to issues with charging and range in recent MCN reviews
 
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