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How many of you believe that professional Hackers and other world events occurring today will cause MOST all electric vehicles to go back to the GM VOLT concept providing ENGINE/GENERATOR as back up power source in case and when hackers shut down our power grids??
See : https://www.google.com/webhp?source...UTF-8#q=hacking+of+the+power+grids+in+the+usa

IF and when that happens all of the all electric vehicles merely become useless.
However, if backed up by an engine/generator can still operate.
The obvious answer is most essential businesses will need to have a back up generator to maintain operations such as (hospitals, emergency services, gas stations etc)
....and ALL EV's will need to have back up power sources such as engine/generator and/or storage system for our solar systems.

The good news is the technology and ranges will get better and better and there will always be a back u system.
 

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My understanding was this was actually a fake story that got promoted while establishment politicians were attempting to delegitimize Trump. Russia! Russia! Russia!

As for the EVs being unusable, that is patently wrong. Fossil fuel production, refinement, and delivery are far easier to disrupt than electrical power generation.

While I do agree that we should all have our own battery backup systems that enable us to cut ourselves off from the grid and still function, Russian hacking is very far down the list of reasons and justifications.
 

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...when that happens all of the all electric vehicles merely become useless.
However, if backed up by an engine/generator can still operate.
...until you run out of gas, since gas stations use electric pumps and don't have backup generators.

If the grid goes down for any significant length of time we'll be in much bigger trouble than merely not being able to use our cars. My backup transportation plan is my bicycle.
 

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...until you run out of gas, since gas stations use electric pumps and don't have backup generators.

If the grid goes down for any significant length of time we'll be in much bigger trouble than merely not being able to use our cars. My backup transportation plan is my bicycle.
More and more do have backup generators.
 

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If someone really can kill the grid regularly and repeatably, you've got much bigger and earlier problems than electric cars - like feeding everybody when the grocery stores and your refrigerator at home are both without power.

If you think someone is likely to be killing the grid regularly, you should be preparing for that, presumably with either a generator or solar+battery pack or both for your home - which coincidentally could easily charge an electric car, too.
 

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Seriously?

This is something that warrants real thought? You do realize power plants still have manual operation mode. Manual isn't as efficient as computer control, but it still functions. I think my Volt can handle the few hours while Homer Simpson schleps himself down to the plant.

But what about sun spot pulses? Or the Earth reversing polarity? We better figure those out!
 

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Some days there isn't enough tinfoil.... :D
+! Million.

So much fake news out there, and sometimes fake accusations that real news is fake. Alt tweets and fake alt tweets. Moves and counter moves. Just turn it off when the BS meter starts wiggling
 

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If someone really can kill the grid regularly and repeatably, you've got much bigger and earlier problems than electric cars - like feeding everybody when the grocery stores and your refrigerator at home are both without power.

If you think someone is likely to be killing the grid regularly, you should be preparing for that, presumably with either a generator or solar+battery pack or both for your home - which coincidentally could easily charge an electric car, too.
Squirels chewing on transformer parts cause them to blow all the time. We had one last weekend, threw our giant computer into a frenzy for a few hours.
 

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I'm reminded of an article I read where someone was discussing, I kid you not, the horrible impact that would happen if we continued to increase windpower dependence and the winds stopped blowing.
 

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I'm reminded of an article I read where someone was discussing, I kid you not, the horrible impact that would happen if we continued to increase windpower dependence and the winds stopped blowing.
<Begin sarcasm font>Hahaha, that's like worrying about if sun stops shining with our use of solar panels. Should we stop digging wells and building dams for fear that water stops flowing. We should stop drinking water altogether before we become addicted to it. <End sarcasm font>

We should be more concerned of the horrible impact that would happen if we continued to increase oil dependence if the oil stopped flowing...oh wait that's already happening with OPEC's chokehold on oil prices where they can turn the spigot on and off to control the prices.
 

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<Begin sarcasm font>Hahaha, that's like worrying about if sun stops shining with our use of solar panels. Should we stop digging wells and building dams for fear that water stops flowing. We should stop drinking water altogether before we become addicted to it. <End sarcasm font>

We should be more concerned of the horrible impact that would happen if we continued to increase oil dependence if the oil stopped flowing...oh wait that's already happening with OPEC's chokehold on oil prices where they can turn the spigot on and off to control the prices.
Yeah. Those solar panels might suck the sun dry, then where would we all be:

http://www.discovery.com/dscovrd/te...at-would-suck-up-all-the-energy-from-the-sun/

http://nationalreport.net/solar-panels-drain-suns-energy-experts-say/

(Not real physics. But some people are apparently easily confused.)
 

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I'm sure he realizes that, but others... maybe not?

For me, The Onion is my only go-to source for real news these days.
That and Twitter.
 

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Seriously?

This is something that warrants real thought? You do realize power plants still have manual operation mode. Manual isn't as efficient as computer control, but it still functions. I think my Volt can handle the few hours while Homer Simpson schleps himself down to the plant.

But what about sun spot pulses? Or the Earth reversing polarity? We better figure those out!
I am shocked that NO ONE has mentioned the largest threats that can emanate from the other 99.9% of the worlds planets and solar systems??
Hasn't anyone seen or remember....HANGER 54?... WAR OF THE WORLDS? or CLOSE ENCOUNTERS OF THE THIRD KIND??
Hopefully ET is watching and will save us if that happens??))
 
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