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So GM MAY put out an Electric car by 2010???

With sales of gas well over 4 dollars a gallon in some places and no end in sight, plus with hybrids flying off lots showing a desire for better mileage vehicles. GM is now telling us that "maybe" they will have a SINGLE all electric by 2010 it is shameful. Especially when you consider they had an all electric vehicle on the roads over 11 years ago that was getting close to 100 miles per charge when they decided to scrape the project and destroy all the vehicles.

GM you should be ashamed of yourselves!
 

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I have never bought a car from an American car company in my entire life. However, I do believe in GM because of the information on this website and other automotive news outlets. I do believe they are going to deliver and will continue to deliver and even out-shine other car companies in the EV realm. So rather than dwell on the past and debate it, I prefer to be hopeful about the future and give GM a chance.
 

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I'm not sure if you noticed the mast head on this site. It's the GM-Volt site. It's an enthusiast site for the upcoming Chevy Volt. If you want to just tell the world that GM sucks, there are better places to do that where you are most likely to get lots of support for your position. Here are some places you could go and be in good company;

http://greencarcongress.com
http://priuschat.com
http://ecocarforum.com
 

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So GM MAY put out an Electric car by 2010???

With sales of gas well over 4 dollars a gallon in some places and no end in sight, plus with hybrids flying off lots showing a desire for better mileage vehicles. GM is now telling us that "maybe" they will have a SINGLE all electric by 2010 it is shameful. Especially when you consider they had an all electric vehicle on the roads over 11 years ago that was getting close to 100 miles per charge when they decided to scrape the project and destroy all the vehicles.

GM you should be ashamed of yourselves!
Do you actually know what you are talking about or are you an armchair CEO. Anyway, I think GM is hiring. Why not get a job there, work your way up to CEO and change things? Seems simple to me. By how much confidence you have you should be in command in a year or so. Then you can pump out the Volt a few months after and we would all be ahead! If you don't... YOU fail. ;)
 

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Do you actually know what you are talking about or are you an armchair CEO. Anyway, I think GM is hiring. Why not get a job there, work your way up to CEO and change things? Seems simple to me. By how much confidence you have you should be in command in a year or so. Then you can pump out the Volt a few months after and we would all be ahead! If you don't... YOU fail. ;)

Hmm, GM is a MULTIBILLION dollar corporation you would think they would have a plan in place if gas prices went up.

You might want read up on the history of GM before smarting off.
 

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Hmm, GM is a MULTIBILLION dollar corporation you would think they would have a plan in place if gas prices went up.

You might want read up on the history of GM before smarting off.

Smarting off? Nice one. Of course they have plans. If you don't understand how things really work in the world and that there are literally thousands of things to consider regarding the impact of decisions then the solutions seem very easy. Why not become a CEO and learn what it's like before smarting off (first and last time I will ever use that). ;)
 

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How can you bitch about GM getting one out in 2010 and they will be first?

The EV1 failed because gas was cheap, global warming was not a big issue and the tech was just not there.

Both Toyota and Honda killed thier programs too, btw.
 

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How can you bitch about GM getting one out in 2010 and they will be first?

The EV1 failed because gas was cheap, global warming was not a big issue and the tech was just not there.

Both Toyota and Honda killed thier programs too, btw.
First off the tech was "there" in 1999 with Gen II of the EV1, sure it wasn't perfect, problems with fire during charging in some early vehicles and limited range in cold weather just to name a few. However that was almost 10 years ago. Imagine if they had continued to develop and refine it rather then scraping and vaulting almost all aspects of the project.

I'm not saying Toyota or Honda are any better then GM. All I am saying is for a corporation the size of GM should have been working on this for the last 10 years. Its made even worse because of how badly they screwed up the EV1 project. I understand no vehicle company can design, engineer, test and produce a new vehicle overnight but come on, they are only now just talking about the possibility of having an all electric vehicle by 2010.

It would be like one of us starting to plan for retirement 2 years before you retire, rather then 20-25 years earlier.
 

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It's official then. The car companies have all failed lostngone's long term planning test. Damn. Just when we were thinking there was a new day for the automobile it turns out they have all failed.:rolleyes:
 

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GM may have trip and fall. As long, GM keep learning it mistake and get back on it feet. Then all things are great. Just because everybody know that GM had an EV-1 in the past before the gas went up. Now many people are piss off at GM cause of EV-1 is not in their hand when the gas is up. Now, I'm looking forward to see the volt outcome and hopefully things are great with the volt. I just have to put-up 10 years that I could find a electric car that seem to be worth my money to spend on. It like a storm knock my home and I had to put-up with the spend the cost to rebuilt my home for 10 years. I can't blame mother nature for the storm as People can't force the market change.
 

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The other problem with it was its a 2 seater. If the volt was a 2 seater, I could not buy it since I take my kids to school every day before I commute.

I personally think California screwed up. Mandating that a company sell 10% of their cars as a certain type of car is stupid. You can't do it without public demand. You need to give your citizens incentives to buy the types of cars you want them to drive. Via taxes, incentives, perks (HOV lane driving) etc.
 

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When the EV1 project was running GM was selling SUV as fast as they could make them.

Who's fault is it? GM is in the business of selling cars, the masses did not want an EV1 in 1999:eek:

GM made cars we were buying, I don't think any company saw this coming so fast.

Look at the sales, people wanted big SUV's 1999
 

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When the EV1 project was running GM was selling SUV as fast as they could make them.

Who's fault is it? GM is in the business of selling cars, the masses did not want an EV1 in 1999:eek:

GM made cars we were buying, I don't think any company saw this coming so fast.

Look at the sales, people wanted big SUV's 1999
But people DID want the EV1's back in 1999.

The problem was that they were only available for lease and only in TWO states at saturn dealerships only, not to many of those back in 1996. Most of the time you were put on a waiting list that in some cases was longer then 2 months!

People wanted them so badly that some tried to buy them when GM ended the lease program and were even willing to sign liability waivers. GM said no and destroyed almost all of them and gutted the ones they didn't. Even to this day GM will go after anyone that is caught driving one on a public road.
 

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I do not think that GM because of this site and other points of Automotive News. I do not want to pursue, and try to continue to acquire and even out shine the other EV car manufacturers in the kingdom. So rather than dwell on the past and the debate, I prefer to be optimistic about the future and give GM a chance.
 

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Whoa...thread necromancy!

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What is the deal with all these 3yr+ old threads coming back to life? This is the 3rd or 4th one I have seen recently.
 

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What is the deal with all these 3yr+ old threads coming back to life? This is the 3rd or 4th one I have seen recently.
It is highly suspicious. You can link to mikeh1's profile and then click on search all post and they are hitting old threads. Wording of post seems interesting. If there were ads or something it would clearly be spam as some smart software extracts word and phrase from other post and puts them in a new post.
 

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Yeah, I'm getting tired of these old threads being raised from the dead, especially those with titles like this one. We don't need any old and sometimes inaccurate information being raised.

Scott, if you haven't perhaps you can send mikeh1 a private message?
 
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