[Volt779]

http://www.autoblog.com/2017/07/21/...-to-tackle-sales-sl/?hcid=ab-around-ab-tile-2

Not sure if this has already been mentioned but incredibly disappointing if this comes to pass, particularly regarding the Volt. Looks like the vestiges of the old GM still remain deeply entrenched.

 

[MrEnergyCzar]

It would be great if they made an AWD CrossVolt several years from now. Time will tell.

 

[El Dobro]

Mention #6572 and counting.

 

[alfon]

For those who were alive and aware during the oil embargo in the 1970's. Remember we had no small cars, and auto manufactures got caught with their pants down. Toyota and Honda ruled the day. U.S. manufactures came up with the Vega, and the Pinto, to compete with the Corolla and the Civic. I recall, at the time my wife's friend had a new Chevy Vega, all she had with that Vega was problems with the engine and the body literally rusted away, in the Conn. / N.Y. area, that car was one pile of manure.

Now lets see, the Vega is history along with the Pinto, but wait, you can still buy a new, 2017 Honda Civic or Toyota Corolla. Now that, at least GM has some nice cars to compete with they want to discontinue them.

The Volt is the most advanced car you can buy for the money with two motors, both with the power to propel the car on either motor. A true electric range of 50 miles, a lot more in summer and a little less in winter, and more mpg just on gas than the Civic and Corolla.

Why would GM even consider killing the Volt with all the money they put into the research and here we are with the 2016-17 Volt a big improvement over the 2011-2015 Volt. The Gen 3 Volt will probably blow the competition away if GM continues the same increase in improvements as they did with the 2016-17 Volt.

 

[ItsNotAboutTheMoney]

For those who were alive and aware during the oil embargo in the 1970's. Remember we had no small cars, and auto manufactures got caught with their pants down. Toyota and Honda ruled the day. U.S. manufactures came up with the Vega, and the Pinto, to compete with the Corolla and the Civic. I recall, at the time my wife's friend had a new Chevy Vega, all she had with that Vega was problems with the engine and the body literally rusted away, in the Conn. / N.Y. area, that car was one pile of manure.

Now lets see, the Vega is history along with the Pinto, but wait, you can still buy a new, 2017 Honda Civic or Toyota Corolla. Now that, at least GM has some nice cars to compete with they want to discontinue them.

The Volt is the most advanced car you can buy for the money with two motors, both with the power to propel the car on either motor. A true electric range of 50 miles, a lot more in summer and a little less in winter, and more mpg just on gas than the Civic and Corolla.

Why would GM even consider killing the Volt with all the money they put into the research and here we are with the 2016-17 Volt a big improvement over the 2011-2015 Volt. The Gen 3 Volt will probably blow the competition away if GM continues the same increase in improvements as they did with the 2016-17 Volt.

Discontinuing the Volt != discontinuing Voltec.
Discontinuing small sedans != discontinuing small cars.
Discontinuing US production != discontinuing production.

 

[llninja]

Discontinuing the Volt != discontinuing Voltec.
Discontinuing small sedans != discontinuing small cars.
Discontinuing US production != discontinuing production.

So one question is, does the mention of CT6 mean they might discontinue the CT6 Plugin, or is the entire CT6 lineup at risk?

I've been looking at CT6 Plugin availability lately. According to Cars.com they are in Cali, Oregon (supportive EV states), Arizona, Florida, Texas, Nevada (lots of rich retirees there who might buy Caddys), then Georgia, Kansas City MO, Michigan, and New York. I really don't get why there are CT6 plugins in Atlanta and Kansas City (#38 and 37 respectively) yet Chicago, the #3 biggest city in the US, was snubbed.

 

[Qinsp]

This is the second hit piece written by Reuters against GM in the last few days.

First is was Bolt factory shutdown, when it was mostly the Sonic produced there that was down 66% of the 2014 sales.

Now it's GM dropping some of it's cars. The president of Cadillac, who would not normally respond to rumors, came out and said in no uncertain terms that the CT6 is not being shut down, directly questioning whether Reuters supposed source was actually a GM insider.

When you consider the Volt is a major contributor to GM's CAFE and CARB mandates, it really sounds questionable.

 

[llninja]

This is the second hit piece written by Reuters against GM in the last few days.

First is was Bolt factory shutdown, when it was mostly the Sonic produced there that was down 66% of the 2014 sales.

Now it's GM dropping some of it's cars. The president of Cadillac, who would not normally respond to rumors, came out and said in no uncertain terms that the CT6 is not being shut down, directly questioning whether Reuters supposed source was actually a GM insider.

When you consider the Volt is a major contributor to GM's CAFE and CARB mandates, it really sounds questionable.

Only time will tell whether this is fake news. I've seen a theory that this is the unions making GM look bad to shame them or embarrass them to reopen the factories.

 

[don shaw]

what was omitted is the information indicating a SUV/CUV/CROSSOVER version of the Volt would be produced instead, if not in addition to the sedan, I am not worried

don

 

[JRRF]

What's more surprising is the Impala. They finally start making an Impala that is one fine looking and driving car (like in the 60s), and all of a sudden they want to kill it?

On the other hand, while I love my Volt, it's a complex car that appeals to a relatively slim demographic. I could see this car simply being a real life test bed for GM to take the technology to the next level in other formats.

 

[Upper5Percent]

This could also be posturing by GM to put pressure on the upcoming UAW contract negotiations that will occur in 2019, when the UAW is set to renegotiate with all three Detroit automakers.

 

[jbakerjonathan]

<snip> I recall, at the time my wife's friend had a new Chevy Vega, all she had with that Vega was problems with the engine and the body literally rusted away, in the Conn. / N.Y. area, that car was one pile of manure. <snip>

I took delivery of a 1971 Vega right after a strike by the UAW had ended. I had the recall to add an overflow bottle for the radiator that was done to alleviate coolant loss and engine overheating/head gasket popping problems that were being experienced (but not by me). I used it as a commuter car and as well as taking the family on vacations to Montauk Point, to Connecticut and to Bar Harbor. At about 45,000 miles I needed to replace the valve guide oil seals (which I did myself). At 90,000 miles I rebuilt the engine because of a cracked piston skirt (again, I did this myself) and drove it as a commuter car for another 6,000 miles before I sold it to my neighbor. No rust, although it saw many winters on New York City streets, L.I.E. commutes and Huntington streets. It really wasn't bad as a small, cheap car when compared to the Japanese offerings of the time. I remember Datsun (Nissan) cars being rust buckets, as well as the Civics, in that era.