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Doesn't surprise me. The bean counters at GM finally figured out how much money they'll lose by not being able to sell the governments in California.
 

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This is a complex issue. GM had to side with Trump to keep him on-board with their efforts to make Workhorse Trucks and Lordstown Motors viable. I expect the USPS to select Workhorse to build new mail trucks before the end of the year. These trucks will be manufactured by Lordstown. This is a contract that can be as much as $8.1b! If GM has sided with California it is doubtful Trump would be of any help.
 

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Also, GM is now committing more R&D $ to EV and AV development than they are for gas and diesel. I think they are slowly getting their EV ducks in a row.
 

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They also just stated they are increasing their EV R&D another 35% from that previously quoted. Every one on track for price equivalency between ICE and EVs around mid decade, Chinese are starting to export their EVs world wide, more countries restricting ICE cars from 2030, 2035 and 2040. The tide is turning, the writing is on the wall.
 

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now I'm going to have to find a new crusade
Don't throw in the towel yet, there is still a decade of auto company foot dragging ahead, haha. The transition to EV will trickle in over a long time. Until charging is fast and everywhere, many will not buy an EV regardless of whether it fits their actual needs. What if I someday have to drive from the Florida Keys to the Alaska Arctic coast? Sure, I never needed to, but if I did an EV won't work for me! :)
 
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Don't throw in the towel yet, there is still a decade of auto company foot dragging ahead, haha. The transition to EV will trickle in over a long time. Until charging is fast and everywhere, many will not buy an EV regardless of whether it fits their actual needs. What if I someday have to drive from the Florida Keys to the Alaska Arctic coast? Sure, I never needed to, but if I did an EV won't work for me! :)
Don't be to sure. A Tesla has already been driven around the four corners of the US and up to Tuktoyaktuk. Just watched Long Way Up were Ewan McGregor and Charlie Boorman drove their electric Harley Davidson motorcycles with two support Rivian trucks (preproduction prototypes VIN numbers ending with 001 and 002 from Tierra del Fuego to LA (13,000+ miles) and there where Juice Boxes in the middle of no where. There where a few times they had to plug into the mains supply and one truck had to be pull charged by a semi for 20 minutes once. The bikes only had just over 100 to 170 miles range depending on outside temps, speed and whether they were going up mountain ranges so high, one camera man got altitude sickness. I assume if you are making these trips you have time on your side. They didn't.
 

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Sure, but most drivers will nay say that, then they will complain that even if it may be possible, the extra charging time makes it a non starter. Then they will talk about batteries drying in 3 years, yadda, yadda. The point is, resistance to change drives reasons to say no. I have relatives who have told me they will consider an EV when it's less expensive to buy than a gas car, charging takes not a minute longer than filling with gas, fast charge stations are at every gas station, batteries are no more than a few thousand dollars to replace, and someone installs a 240V station in their garage for free. They have set a very high bar as a way of avoiding change.
 
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Don't throw in the towel yet, there is still a decade of auto company foot dragging ahead, haha. The transition to EV will trickle in over a long time. Until charging is fast and everywhere, many will not buy an EV regardless of whether it fits their actual needs. What if I someday have to drive from the Florida Keys to the Alaska Arctic coast? Sure, I never needed to, but if I did an EV won't work for me! :)
How about an electric truck with a battery large enough for daily use (could be charge at home) supplemented by an ICE driven range extender for the few times long trips with heavy loads are required. My guess is a serial hybrid would be lighter and cheaper. Sound fsmilar?
 

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Sure, but most drivers will nay say that, then they will complain that even if it may be possible, the extra charging time makes it a non starter. Then they will talk about batteries drying in 3 years, yadda, yadda. The point is, resistance to change drives reasons to say no. I have relatives who have told me they will consider an EV when it's less expensive to buy than a gas car, charging takes not a minute longer than filling with gas, fast charge stations are at every gas station, batteries are no more than a few thousand dollars to replace, and someone installs a 240V station in their garage for free. They have set a very high bar as a way of avoiding change.
Yep, your relatives are in the group that will change only when they can no longer buy gas, at any price.
 

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Don't throw in the towel yet, there is still a decade of auto company foot dragging ahead, haha. The transition to EV will trickle in over a long time. Until charging is fast and everywhere, many will not buy an EV regardless of whether it fits their actual needs. What if I someday have to drive from the Florida Keys to the Alaska Arctic coast? Sure, I never needed to, but if I did an EV won't work for me! :)
Not necessarily so. Every night when you stop, you can find hotels/motels with EV chargers, and there are quick chargers most everywhere now. I've seen them in shopping malls, fast food and other restaurants, casinos, etc. My Tesla route planner will show you the route to your destination and show you where chargers can be found. The program tells you how many chargers are at that location, and how many of them are currently in use. I've plotted a trip from Sacramento to Albany NY, and it shows chargers all the way! By the time no new gas cars are being sold, there will be more of them. Range anxiety is mostly an illusion, in my experience.
 

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Sure. Both my cars are EV's, I don't need convincing. It's the 96% of drivers who are not buying an EV ...
 

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...Just watched Long Way Up were Ewan McGregor and Charlie Boorman drove their electric Harley Davidson motorcycles with two support Rivian trucks.... from Tierra del Fuego to LA (13,000+ miles) ....
Wow !!
Thanks for the recommendation!!
The trailer looks awesome!

EV Adventure Movie tonight!
 
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