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Went up to Port Angeles WA to go salmon fishing and visit family with our 2016 Volt Premier. Total trip 234.8 miles. Electric used, 20.6 miles as I saved some electric range when I got there. MPG just on gas for the trip, 214.2 used 4.13 gals stated by car computer 52 mpg, when calculated by miles and divided by gas actually pumped the mpg was 56 mpg.

My wife took our 2010 prius and her mpg was 46 mpg of course just on gas, she did have a small kayak on the roof that shaved off a few mpg. Pretty impressive for the Volt with only an EPA of 42 mpg. I have noticed with the Volt the mpg stated when running on gas is usually under stated, meaning when calculated by actual miles driven and gallons pumped you will usually get more mpg, like in this case. The Prius was reading nearly 49 mpg on the gauge but calculated out with miles and gallons pumped to 46.
 

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So the volt beats the Prius on this trip and blows away the Prius on a normal city commute. So why are people still buying priuses (prii?). Alas for a trip like yours, instead of taking 2 economy cars, I would have taken my Suburban. Screw fuel economy, I'm going for comfort and space for the kids and cargo - one driver vs. two - family bonding time in the vehicle.
 

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So why are people still buying priuses (prii?)
Toyota brand image and their legendary reliability ... GM/Chevy is still considered a lumbering stumbling old car company that makes unreliable low-quality vehicles. They did win the most awards for Initial Quality in the last few years but perceptions die hard!
 

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So the volt beats the Prius on this trip and blows away the Prius on a normal city commute. So why are people still buying priuses (prii?). Alas for a trip like yours, instead of taking 2 economy cars, I would have taken my Suburban. Screw fuel economy, I'm going for comfort and space for the kids and cargo - one driver vs. two - family bonding time in the vehicle.
"But the EPA says... " That's why. That's all they got to go on. Just like the EPA says the Model S is 265 watt-hours per mile, and the Volt 360. But each owners' group know the EPA figures are a lie. And not in the same direction.
 

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Went up to Port Angeles WA to go salmon fishing and visit family with our 2016 Volt Premier. Total trip 234.8 miles. Electric used, 20.6 miles as I saved some electric range when I got there. MPG just on gas for the trip, 214.2 used 4.13 gals stated by car computer 52 mpg, when calculated by miles and divided by gas actually pumped the mpg was 56 mpg.

My wife took our 2010 prius and her mpg was 46 mpg of course just on gas, she did have a small kayak on the roof that shaved off a few mpg. Pretty impressive for the Volt with only an EPA of 42 mpg. I have noticed with the Volt the mpg stated when running on gas is usually under stated, meaning when calculated by actual miles driven and gallons pumped you will usually get more mpg, like in this case. The Prius was reading nearly 49 mpg on the gauge but calculated out with miles and gallons pumped to 46.
Yes, the Prius is a big fat liar on its speed and mpg. Apparently there's a flaw in Toyota internal fuel calculations on some vehicles (not just the Prius).
What were the elevations and speeds like on your route? I ask because on first glance that seems like terrible mpg for a Gen 3. Off the Interstate I'd be expecting comfortably over 50mpg. (I'm mid-high 50smpg right now).
 

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"So why are people still buying priuses (prii?)"

Because Toyota was the first to offer a production hybrid, and is still "brainwashing" their customers.

And GM has done little promotion to prove that Gen1 and Gen 2 Chevy Volts are much better in saving gas than any Prius.

Even Ford has better hybrids than Toyota, yet promote more trucks than their C-Max, Fusion, and Lincoln MKZ hybrids.
 

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Yes, the Prius is a big fat liar on its speed and mpg. Apparently there's a flaw in Toyota internal fuel calculations on some vehicles (not just the Prius).
What were the elevations and speeds like on your route? I ask because on first glance that seems like terrible mpg for a Gen 3. Off the Interstate I'd be expecting comfortably over 50mpg. (I'm mid-high 50smpg right now).
The Prius had a kayak on the roof. Anything on the roof of a high mileage car will destroy the car's efficiency, especially on the highway. For this reason, as well as the intervening years between the two vehicles, this isn't a valid comparison.
 

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"But the EPA says... " That's why. That's all they got to go on. Just like the EPA says the Model S is 265 watt-hours per mile, and the Volt 360. But each owners' group know the EPA figures are a lie. And not in the same direction.
Fro the price of a new model S I can much 3 or 4 Volts for what I paid for my new volt. Or I buy one volt and have enough leftover to pay for a lifetime of fuel.
 

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EPA should redo the Prius tests with a kayak on the roof. :rolleyes:
Or revoke its car status... just like Pluto is no longer a planet.
 

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The trip was via highway 101 speeds from 60 mph to 25 mph when going through towns, cities. We took 2 cars in the event my wife had to leave early so I could continue fishing. Salmon fishing anymore is strictly regulated and I wanted to take advantage of every day I could when its still open. Also I felt it would be a good thing to just compare the gas mpg both delivered when of course just running on gas. I'm sure the Prius would have achieved better mpg's than 46 without the kayak on the roof but probably 52-55 mpg calculated of course.
 

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The trip was via highway 101 speeds from 60 mph to 25 mph when going through towns, cities. We took 2 cars in the event my wife had to leave early so I could continue fishing. Salmon fishing anymore is strictly regulated and I wanted to take advantage of every day I could when its still open. Also I felt it would be a good thing to just compare the gas mpg both delivered when of course just running on gas. I'm sure the Prius would have achieved better mpg's than 46 without the kayak on the roof but probably 52-55 mpg calculated of course.
I've never tried it with the Volt, but a 600 km run at highway speeds with a kayak or canoe on top meant at least a 15% drop in mileage with my Jetta. Even the empty rack on top made a noticeable difference.
 

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But the most important question of all is: did you catch any salmon? :)
Yes, so far three King Salmon, averaging about 12 lbs or so the biggest 15 lbs. Still have one more day to go as I type this. Nothing
like fresh King Salmon for dinner, believe me, its the best tasting salmon of all the species in my book, and the hardest fighting....
 

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So the volt beats the Prius on this trip and blows away the Prius on a normal city commute. So why are people still buying priuses (prii?). Alas for a trip like yours, instead of taking 2 economy cars, I would have taken my Suburban. Screw fuel economy, I'm going for comfort and space for the kids and cargo - one driver vs. two - family bonding time in the vehicle.
What kind of fuel economy do you get in the Suburban? If you get close to the mid 20's mpg you are better off fuel use to take one Suburban than you are taking two economy cars.

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What kind of fuel economy do you get in the Suburban? If you get close to the mid 20's mpg you are better off fuel use to take one Suburban than you are taking two economy cars.

Keith
Well, my Suburban as a 454 cu inch big block V8 and a bigger rear transaxle for towin so I'm lucky to get 10-14 mpg. But a newer suburban might get 21 mpg on a good day with the wind behind you back, downhill, both ways. But as the OP mentioned, there was a different reason to take two cars - gotta love eating salmon.
 

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Just returned yesterday from our trip of 3 days of salmon fishing in Port Angeles, Washington. Got 3 nice King Salmon but fishing was not like it was a few years ago, but it was still enjoyable staying and fishing with family. My wife enjoyed her time kayaking with our lab Sparky, and snorkeling as well.

I drove our 2016 Volt for the trip. I was amazed that it returned great gas mpg's, when of course running on gas, 417.8 gas miles driven, 7.755 gal's at the pump, pumped same method for consistency, 53.87 mpg on gas only, (87 octane 10% ethanol), roundtrip, sea level to sea level.

My wife driving the Prius, mpg on Prius gauge indicated on completed trip, 46.2 mpg/ est. calculated based on over reporting of 3 miles or so per gallon on the Prius mpg gauge, est. 43 mpg for round trip. It would have been nice if the her kayak was not on the roof but I still believe the Volt beat the Prius even considering 6-8 mpg loss with the extra drag from her kayak.

Has anybody else been getting over 50 mpg with their Gen 2 Volt?
 
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