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Hey guys. Ill be honest I haven't really been active on these forums but this is a bit more permanent than facebook where this started. Speaking of which. There was a post on the Chevy Volt DIY repair and modding group regarding flex fuel since some of us are lucky enough to have e85 cheap enough to offset the economy loss. I am a small tuning business owner and have done many flex fuel conversions on customer cars. I am aware of an article from 2013 and the "Volterado" efforts that happened with this but I havent seen much since. Maybe there are a ton of these I dont know about! But probably not. I also wasn't a huge fan of the direction the "Volterado" tune went so I figured I would give it my own spin.

Anyways E85 is now cheaper than premium AND regular gas even when factoring in a worst case of a 30% fuel economy loss where I am at. If it isnt where you are im sorry but this isnt a debate on if it will save money in your area. Plus I have the sensors, wiring, and tools on hand... and the volt was designed to be flex fuel originally so why not?

So lets start with the parts list. This is to put a real flex sensor in. There is simply no way the virtual flex system will work well on a car that cycles the engine on and off at every opportunity. Sure the volt always runs in closed loop but its asking for errors and drivability problems.

Flex fuel sensor. Any of the 3 or 4 variants will work. I chose the one with short lines and no mounting tabs. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B073ZQ1G2P
Sensor plug. Amazon.com
Fuel rail 5/16 to barb disconnect. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000E3022Y
Sensor 3/8 to barb disconnects. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000E3022E
Firewall 3/8 to barb disconnect. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000E323JO
Pins for the ecu. Molex MX64. You can find these pre terminated. I do this all the time so I buy them loose and crimp them myself. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01MTSWHSY
Add a fuse tap. Available at every parts store. Grab wire loom while you are there.
Fuel line. I had some 6an or 3/8ths braided line from a customer cars left overs and some high pressure hose clamps. You could also use nylon fuel line like factory.
Hptuners or efi live for tuning.
2001 Corvette with a flex conversion. More on this in a bit.

So. Lets start. This isnt going to be hyper detailed. If you cant fill in the blanks you shouldn't be doing this.

Step 1. Jack up the drivers side front of the car. Pop the wheel off or turn it in hard right. Remove the star bit screws holding the bumper cover to the wheel well. Follow the trail of screws under the car and remove the 7mm screws until you reach the lower air duct of the front bumper. Theres a flat plastic bracket thing with 4 plastic push clips. Remove them. Move to the top. Take everything out of the beauty cover that covers the radiator cradle and has the washer fluid fill neck coming through. Lots of those wonderful push clips. Toss that out of the way. Now you have 4 more screws holding the bumper on. Wait. Pop the washer fluid fill neck out first. Now pull those screws. Go to the seam behind the drivers headlight and POP the bumper loose. Woo.

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Now go disconnect the negative battery cable in the rear. We are going to do some stuff.

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Thats the engine computer. Pop at least the far left plug off. We are modifying the grey one. Snip the zip tie and unclip the back. Go to the front and gently pry up on the shorter two edges. It WILL break if you are not careful. In fact this whole connector sucks. Use a tiny phillips head screwdriver to pop out pin 20 and pin 34 blanks. 20 is ground. 34 is flex input. Pull your wire through and crimp your pins on. Pull them in. Dont break the locking clips. Reassemble. Its an E78 if you wanna google more.

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If you want. Plug it back in. Reconnect battery ground. Turn the car on. With your multimeter check for 5v to ground on the flex pin and 12v to positive on the ground pin. Disconnect again.

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Run your wires into the engine bay. Reinstall the bumper. Open your fuse box. Tap the injector fuse since it turns on and off with the engine main relay. Use a 5 amp or less fuse here. It draws effectively nothing. I found a 3 in the box. Run wire out of box. I let it get pinched in the cover. You can drill a hole if you want. I didnt want.

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Here is where the corvette comes in. I wanted to test stuff before finalizing. My corvette already has a flex sensor submerged in e85. Figured I would borrow it.

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So anyways. Pop the engine cover off. Two hose clamps. Two screws. Fuel line can be removed. Connector clips are NOT a single piece. They have a ribbed lock that you pop up THEN you press down on the rounded tab while wiggling. I broke one. Start cobbling your connectors together. You could use AN fittings. I thought it was overkill for this. But I also hate nylon line. So I clamped braided line on with high pressure clamps. If you dont like it keep it to yourself. :)

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Connect your wires to your sensor plug. CHECK THE PINOUT. The pigtails are pinned wrong all the time. Red is usually 12v. Black ground. White flex signal. Reconnect your battery. Turn the car on. Check for leaks. I had none. But I do stuff like this daily.

Tuning wise ill go into more detail if there is interest. You enable flex diag in your fuel system tab. Under engine and flex you enable it with a physical sensor. Set your default, delay, transition, and threshold values to sane numbers. Under spark make sure you copy over the cat overtemp spark table into the flex cat overtemp table. Go to engine torque model. Copy EVERY SINGLE AIRMASS AND MAP TABLE into the flex airmass and flex map tables or it will sound awful and be really unhappy. Burn it in. Test. You should see ethanol content in your scanner now! Woo.
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Anyways. It works. Have ran a few gallons through so far. No issues. Ill keep working on this as time goes on.
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Are the delay/transition/threshold values the same with every GM flex fuel engine? Such as, would we be wise to copy the values from a 2003 Suburban that is designated as an FFV?


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So now you could make 85% of your fuel with a still, if so inclined!
I’ve gone the other way as an experiment. We have 0% alcohol gas available, I use it in my chain saws. I’ve also used it in the Volt for a couple tank fulls. Performance seems better, smoother, quieter, and the gas mileage seems better. I have a hard time justifying burning food for transportation and the associated pressures on the environment. The township I live in is becoming more and more deforested as pressure to grow corn keeps up. Farmers remove trees, create enormous burn piles, shove the stumps into to wetlands. All to increase their 1000 acres of corn into 1010 acres.
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I have a hard time justifying burning food for transportation
Came here to say this

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My 2013 is software tuned for E55 and I used HPTuners but don’t have an ethanol sensor installed. I received the E55 tune from GM-Volt member, Fuelverine. Tuned for E55 allows me to run premium gas or actual E85 without needing an ethanol sensor. I usually fill up on flex-fuel and the 1.4 liter runs just fine. It’s great.
My 2013 is software tuned for E55 and I used HPTuners but don’t have an ethanol sensor installed. I received the E55 tune from GM-Volt member, Fuelverine. Tuned for E55 allows me to run premium gas or actual E85 without needing an ethanol sensor. I usually fill up on flex-fuel and the 1.4 liter runs just fine. It’s great.
Interested in doing this... do you still have the tune? I have a 2013 as well. How well does it run?
Interested in doing this... do you still have the tune? I have a 2013 as well. How well does it run?
Yes I have it loaded on a USB just in case. As for how it runs, as good as it runs on premium fuel. You couldn't tell really. Doesn't need extra hardware or anything. Message me directly and I can email it over if you still want the tune.
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Yes I have it loaded on a USB just in case. As for how it runs, as good as it runs on premium fuel. You couldn't tell really. Doesn't need extra hardware or anything. Message me directly and I can email it over if you still want the tune.
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Has it been confirmed all of the fuel system lines and components coming in contact with the fuel are rated for the higher level of alcohol? I know that was a problem years ago and I wonder whether all newer vehicles are already built with components to handle E85.
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Has it been confirmed all of the fuel system lines and components coming in contact with the fuel are rated for the higher level of alcohol? I know that was a problem years ago and I wonder whether all newer vehicles are already built with components to handle E85.
For E85, for the same amount of air, you need about 25% more fuel. A typical vehicle made after 2002 will adjust up to 20% for the amount of fuel with no modifications. Since around 2002 vehicles have been manufactured to handle ethanol. That is around the time gasoline was required to contain around 10% ethanol.
I’ve gone the other way as an experiment. We have 0% alcohol gas available, I use it in my chain saws. I’ve also used it in the Volt for a couple tank fulls. Performance seems better, smoother, quieter, and the gas mileage seems better. I have a hard time justifying burning food for transportation and the associated pressures on the environment. The township I live in is becoming more and more deforested as pressure to grow corn keeps up. Farmers remove trees, create enormous burn piles, shove the stumps into to wetlands. All to increase their 1000 acres of corn into 1010 acres.
I observed the same thing when running non ethanol 93 octane. Even though I have a Gen2 Volt.
Are the delay/transition/threshold values the same with every GM flex fuel engine? Such as, would we be wise to copy the values from a 2003 Suburban that is designated as an FFV?


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I did some math in my head for what they should be based on the position of the sensor. Didn't notice any transition issues so it must be pretty close. I can share values if you want me to pull them out. No factory vehicle had the sensor in the engine bay so the values will be off.
My 2013 is software tuned for E55 and I used HPTuners but don’t have an ethanol sensor installed. I received the E55 tune from GM-Volt member, Fuelverine. Tuned for E55 allows me to run premium gas or actual E85 without needing an ethanol sensor. I usually fill up on flex-fuel and the 1.4 liter runs just fine. It’s great.
This can work if all you want is to be able to fill with both but I have had enough customers come in asking me for help when it doesnt that I simply cant recommend it anymore. For the $100 I spent its worth it to just do it right.

Also. You are not getting the full benefits of E85 since there is no way for the computer to know or infer ethanol content with that method so it can not do timing adjustments to match.
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This can work if all you want is to be able to fill with both but I have had enough customers come in asking me for help when it doesnt that I simply cant recommend it anymore. For the $100 I spent its worth it to just do it right.

Also. You are not getting the full benefits of E85 since there is no way for the computer to know or infer ethanol content with that method so it can not do timing adjustments to match.
I wish I had an ethanol sensor installed but I'm a bit apprehensive to put it in myself. My highway MPG from last road trip (825 mi) was about 34 MPG. I'm sure it could be better with an ethanol sensor.

Where is your tuning business located?
Flex fuel is becoming a no-brainer in France. E85 is 71c per litre against 175c for E10 95RON. The only issue is the lack of expertise here on HP Tuners. Thanks frosty95 for the detailed mechanical setup, Is there a downloadable setup file for the ECU anywhere?
Hello, I would like to be able to get the programming values for e55-85 and thus be able to adapt the car a2013 thank you very much
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