Jeremy,Jason you are correct about the Toyota system being a hoax. A local salvage yard had a wrecked prius that they sold the motor out of and it went into a 06 Scion XB and got 41 mpg. The EV side of it in the prius may help get 5 or 6 more miles per gallon it seems.
dag - so much hate in you. Why do you care about what other people are doing, feeling, saying? Are you upset because no one is patting you on the head for living cheap? No chics giving you the time of day for pinching pennies?I get a really good laugh out of fools driving GM's fullsizers whining about gas prices. Did they think the universe owed them cheap gas or what? Did they think there was some supernatural force refilling everybody's oil wells? Did they not notice that OPEC raked us over the coals in 1973? Some people are just slow learners.
The report of the Atkinson engine's performance merely substantiate's what all the other information was saying - regenerative braking systems add very little to a vehicle's mileage.jmh, Don't get all excited, that Prius engine didn't get 41mpg in the city in that Scion. But you do strike me as exactly the kind of "executive level" guy that would make a decision based on an unsubstantiated net rumor.
GM used regenerative braking systems on their trucks and SUV's in the hopes of maintaining sales of their highest profit vehicles. For the smaller car market, GM is wisely leapfrogging the parallel hybrid approach for a series hybrid approach, which allows them to eventually sell BEV's and PFCV's. It is the best positioning for GM regardless of how well it pans out. Ford and Chrysler, in spite of offering very small cars made by "partners", are much more poorly positioned.The proof is still in the pudding. The Toyota Prius AND the Ford Escape give amazing fuel economy in town. They do better on the road because they can live with a low-power engine/high efficiency and use the hybrid system to deliver performance. It's not magic, it's just something that GM couldn't be bothered to do.
You can always tell an "executive" but you can't tell 'em much.
Make up your mind. In one post, you decry the enabling of the petroleum companies, then in the next, you admit petroleum is useful.Displace how much? To what end? At what cost? You've answered none of these questions. There's no advantage to eradicating petroleum use; the stuff is used because it's useful.
Excellent question. In GM's presentation, using LA driving patterns, they indicated that the Volt would reduce petroleum consumption by 80%.And how much will the Volt reduce petroleum use ... ?