It will be like a Prius, only not quite as slow, with superior handling, and with a fifth seat.And I'm sure the folks at Ford are super pleased about the phrase "Like a Toyota Prius" being used to describe a Mustang.![]()
It's called oligarchy and we've been moving in that direction for some time and neither the Republicans nor the Democrats care either.I don't care who the President is (Democrat, Republican, etc.), I don't like the idea of private "meetings" with CEOs. Corporations and capitalism are the new religion, and I've always supported a secular government.
A coworker of mine has the turbo 4, and it still has plenty of performance, enough to be scary on pothole and pedestrian ridden streets. If they make an AWD electric mustang, all they need to do is pipe exhaust noise through the speakers and most owners wouldn't know. But if they do that, they'd better have a setting to allow you to turn it off, permanently, unlike the 12A setting in the volt G1 that needs to be done each and every time.Not sure they're targeting the best demographic here...Are there actually people saying they want to buy a V8 powered mustang and want it quieter and better MPG? The one thing that could differentiate a hybrid mustang is if they make it AWD...
I think the best demo for this car would be the base convertible...Go to most any car rental place, request a convertible and you got yourself a base mustang...Go to Hawaii and tons of people rent Mustang convertibles...Most of these renters never need the performance, many would welcome better MPG...
We've been there for a while now lolIt's called oligarchy and we've been moving in that direction for some time and neither the Republicans nor the Democrats care either.
Yup, been in an ecoboost, not saying it's a slouch, but many get it because it is $7000 cheaper than the V8 and does offer cheaper insurance and better MPG...A coworker of mine has the turbo 4, and it still has plenty of performance, enough to be scary on pothole and pedestrian ridden streets. If they make an AWD electric mustang, all they need to do is pipe exhaust noise through the speakers and most owners wouldn't know. But if they do that, they'd better have a setting to allow you to turn it off, permanently, unlike the 12A setting in the volt G1 that needs to be done each and every time.
Plus in Hawaii, isn't the speed limit something like 45 mph? There isn't far to go, and nobody is in any hurry to get there. hang loose.
And when that small group goes down to one, it's a dictatorship or monarchy, depending on whether they are hated or revered.We've been there for a while now lol
In the old days, when you bought a 5.0 vs. a 4 banger, you could tell the difference because of the body cladding, wheels, stickers and badging. I like the fact that the wimpy mustang doesn't look all that different from the decked out one. Sure the person with the V8 might not like it that he or she spent a fortune for the V8 and their friends go "yeah, my secretary bought one just like it." I think that's why Chevy went with the Camaro and has a separate and distinct vette which Ford seems to have run away from (thunderbird). So when is Mopar going to release an electric Hellcat? Better yet, bring back the Magnum wagon in Hellcat cladding, AWD, and electric motors, and it won't matter if it doesn't make a sound at all, as long as it comes close to ludicrous mode as a lower price.Yup, been in an ecoboost, not saying it's a slouch, but many get it because it is $7000 cheaper than the V8 and does offer cheaper insurance and better MPG...
Seems to like giving the economy buyers a new economy option is the best move...Matching V8 power without any other benefit such as AWD just doesn't make sense...
We are a long way from that ever happeningAnd when that small group goes down to one, it's a dictatorship or monarchy, depending on whether they are hated or revered.
Right now, GM's the only one of the big three with the parts bin to do this kind of thing easily - Voltec up front attached to a DI turbo engine and a Bolt or Spark EDU at the rear. 350 electric horsepower plus the engine (2 liter DI Turbo, ~250 hp?) if the battery pack is up to the job, and a wide range of power and energy focused cells to choose from among the various projects.I think that's why Chevy went with the Camaro and has a separate and distinct vette which Ford seems to have run away from (thunderbird). So when is Mopar going to release an electric Hellcat? Better yet, bring back the Magnum wagon in Hellcat cladding, AWD, and electric motors, and it won't matter if it doesn't make a sound at all, as long as it comes close to ludicrous mode as a lower price.
The Ford HF35 EDU was upgraded from the 2013 model to handle 118 HP and allow EV speeds up to 85 MPH. See my previous post here or visit the Ford website for exact ratings. It is identical for Hybrid and Energi models, and for the Lincoln MKZ Hybrid. I have done test drives of the Fusion Hybrid and it does feel powerful.Ford doesn't even have that - I think the only PHEV EDU they have is the Fusion/C-Max one, good for about 70 electric horsepower in the Energi versions (not sure if that's a battery limit or a EDU limit, though.) They do have a ~140 hp electric only EDU from the focus electric...
Better. Maybe even enough if they can come up with a 2-300 HP electric EDU for the rear axle (Assuming they use the HF35 in front with a transverse turbo 4 and a separate RWD EDU like the Highlander Hybrid, RLX Sport Hybrid, and Outlander PHEV (and similar to Tesla's D models.)The Ford HF35 EDU was upgraded from the 2013 model to handle 118 HP and allow EV speeds up to 85 MPH. See my previous post here or visit the Ford website for exact ratings. It is identical for Hybrid and Energi models, and for the Lincoln MKZ Hybrid. I have done test drives of the Fusion Hybrid and it does feel powerful.
Toyota got parts from tesla for the RAV4 EV. There's nothing stopping Mopar or Ford from doing the same. The Ford GT would be a great platform for this. Similarly, Mopar should bring back the superbird, slant nose, big wing, and all. Or they could revive the barracuda name and put it onto an ev.Right now, GM's the only one of the big three with the parts bin to do this kind of thing easily - Voltec up front attached to a DI turbo engine and a Bolt or Spark EDU at the rear. 350 electric horsepower plus the engine (2 liter DI Turbo, ~250 hp?) if the battery pack is up to the job, and a wide range of power and energy focused cells to choose from among the various projects.
Mopar has a decent EDU in the new Pacifica Hybrid, but no ~150-200 HP all electric EDU to put on the rear axle - the only pure electric EDU they have anywhere in FCA's stable right now is the 111 hp one from the 500e AFAIK. Combined with the Pacifica front, that can get them to ~250 electric HP in AWD form, which added to one of the ubiquitous 200-250hp two liter DI turbo engines could give decent performance as a plug in hybrid but would have a very heavy FWD bias.
Ford doesn't even have that - I think the only PHEV EDU they have is the Fusion/C-Max one, good for about 70 electric horsepower in the Energi versions (not sure if that's a battery limit or a EDU limit, though.) They do have a ~140 hp electric only EDU from the focus electric...
Of course, that's only what's in the parts bin for quick, inexpensive development. I'm sure any of them could introduce such a car if they are ready to spend several years and a bunch of dollars developing the new parts for it.