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Holds more than I expected after seeing it in person. I guess the "well" adds space. For a small vehicle it does hold quite a bit.

I think all body panels are aluminum. Shouldn't be a problem going back and forth for F150 owners! :D
 

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I was impressed as well. What impressed me most was that it is designed to fit all that below the seat level, which is great for rear visibility.

Also, I just thought I'd throw in some of my random observations. I'm not trying to sensor, but I recognize that people can't feel through the video. The tactile sense is really different when closing the doors, and I think people need to be aware. At the dealership, my salesman walked off three times without fully closing the door, and I don't think he ever realized it.
 

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Thank you. The cargo area is deceptively big.

One thing I noticed in the video is that the trim below the side windows is a matte black while there is a glossy black piece of trim behind the rear doors. That would drive me nuts, but as I mentioned in a different post, I'd probably plastidip the chrome if I bought one, so just a little more time and effort would make those pieces of trim match each other.
 

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I was impressed as well. What impressed me most was that it is designed to fit all that below the seat level, which is great for rear visibility.

Also, I just thought I'd throw in some of my random observations. I'm not trying to sensor, but I recognize that people can't feel through the video. The tactile sense is really different when closing the doors, and I think people need to be aware. At the dealership, my salesman walked off three times without fully closing the door, and I don't think he ever realized it.
Your driver seat is pretty far forward. It looks like the rear seat room is tight?
 

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Your driver seat is pretty far forward. It looks like the rear seat room is tight?
Not that I've noticed. The front seat does push very far back, so a really tall driver could cut down on the space a bit. I'm 5'10" and when I am sitting in the back seat, I have 4" to 6" of space between my knees and the front seat.
 

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Your driver seat is pretty far forward. It looks like the rear seat room is tight?
I'm 6'1" tall and overall a very big guy. When I adjusted the front seats for me I still had very good space behind me (in the Bolt EV). I can sit behind myself in a Bolt EV with lots of space. Not something I could do in my Volt.
 

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I'm 6'1" tall and overall a very big guy. When I adjusted the front seats for me I still had very good space behind me (in the Bolt EV). I can sit behind myself in a Bolt EV with lots of space. Not something I could do in my Volt.
I knew the Bolt EV uses hammerspace!
 

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The tactile sense is really different when closing the doors, and I think people need to be aware.
I had a Camry hybrid that was reasonably quiet but I saw some cheap DIY sound deadening solutions I wanted to try. In doing so, I took the door panels off and found a cross brace bar that had lead weight clamped to it. That gave the door momentum and a satisfying "clunk" when you shut it.
 

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Maybe that's where GM shaved off the extra 50 or so pounds from the final weight! Can't believe manufacturers would actually ADD weight to a car for the sole purpose of making the doors close better.
 

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I had a Camry hybrid that was reasonably quiet but I saw some cheap DIY sound deadening solutions I wanted to try. In doing so, I took the door panels off and found a cross brace bar that had lead weight clamped to it. That gave the door momentum and a satisfying "clunk" when you shut it.
Interesting. Personally, I'd rather go a different direction and use reinforcing steel bars like Subaru uses on their cars. It wouldn't provide the same angular momentum as lead weights, but it would serve dual purposes.

I should start consolidating all my nitpicking of the Bolt EV's features. Many I recognize are done for cost considerations, but some I think are just missed opportunities. Also, I can't help deferring back to my performance car days... I can already see several opportunities to reduce the Bolt's weight further.
 

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I'm 6'1" tall and overall a very big guy. When I adjusted the front seats for me I still had very good space behind me (in the Bolt EV). I can sit behind myself in a Bolt EV with lots of space. Not something I could do in my Volt.
Good to know.Thanks.
 

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I'm 6'1" tall and overall a very big guy. When I adjusted the front seats for me I still had very good space behind me (in the Bolt EV). I can sit behind myself in a Bolt EV with lots of space. Not something I could do in my Volt.
I'm 6'3" tall, but from driving manual transmissions all of my life, I actually like to be closer to the clutch and usually have my seat pretty far forward, even farther than what my wife likes. I find that stretching out my legs actually hurts my back on long trips. Suffice it to say, no matter what I have the seat set at, the kids hate the back of the volt. It's fins for a short shopping trip, but horrible for a cross country road trip. I noticed Ladogaboy had a number of backpacks and a piece of luggage, but I really need to see an airline approved carry-on (the kind they put in the overhead storage and have a bin that you have to fit it into, otherwise they force you to check the bag in). if I can fit 4 of these standing up in the cargo area, then the Bolt becomes a viable vehicle to take trips to O'hare airport and back. The other issue will be the 250-300 mile round trip means we have to stop and charge at some point. Even though there are plenty of chargers in gen Chicagoland area, we've grown accustomed to driving up to pick up someone at the airport, and turning around in a signal 6-7 hour jaunt. The fashion outlet mall near O'hare has free chargepoint chargers and O'hare' daily parking area also has a free level 2 (but you pay up the wazoo for parking). But to put an extra 50-70 miles means we have to wait and charge soemwhere. And I'm guessing a level 3 would be ideal, but I don't think thay are as widespread in Chicagoland as they are in California.
 

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I'm 6'3" tall, but from driving manual transmissions all of my life, I actually like to be closer to the clutch and usually have my seat pretty far forward, even farther than what my wife likes. I find that stretching out my legs actually hurts my back on long trips. Suffice it to say, no matter what I have the seat set at, the kids hate the back of the volt. It's fins for a short shopping trip, but horrible for a cross country road trip.
I think you and I have that in common. Both driving a manual and any sort of performance driving require you to sit closer to the pedals. High-speed front-end impacts when your leg is fully extended on the brake pedal is a big no no.

I noticed Ladogaboy had a number of backpacks and a piece of luggage, but I really need to see an airline approved carry-on (the kind they put in the overhead storage and have a bin that you have to fit it into, otherwise they force you to check the bag in). if I can fit 4 of these standing up in the cargo area, then the Bolt becomes a viable vehicle to take trips to O'hare airport and back. The other issue will be the 250-300 mile round trip means we have to stop and charge at some point. Even though there are plenty of chargers in gen Chicagoland area, we've grown accustomed to driving up to pick up someone at the airport, and turning around in a signal 6-7 hour jaunt. The fashion outlet mall near O'hare has free chargepoint chargers and O'hare' daily parking area also has a free level 2 (but you pay up the wazoo for parking). But to put an extra 50-70 miles means we have to wait and charge soemwhere. And I'm guessing a level 3 would be ideal, but I don't think thay are as widespread in Chicagoland as they are in California.
Sorry about that. I don't really have the "approved" airline luggage. I know which bags you are referring to, and my guess is you could fit six to eight of them standing vertically in the back of the Bolt.
 

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You don't need actual luggage. Most US airlines allow up to approx 9" x 14" x 22". I think if you could just provide measurements of length, width, and height of the cargo area, the ninja would be able to do the math necessary for his purpose.
 

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You don't need actual luggage. Most US airlines allow up to approx 9" x 14" x 22". I think if you could just provide measurements of length, width, and height of the cargo area, the ninja would be able to do the math necessary for his purpose.
Yeah. I'm surprised no one has done that yet. I'll get the exact dimensions soon.
 

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Just using the vertical "box," the Bolt has 24" H x 18" D x 38" W of rear cargo room, so you could fit five of those bags vertically. You could actually fit more, but you'd have to pull off the security screen.
 

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Thank you for the measurements and video. The behind the seat area is deceptively large. I typically keep the 27" D x 40" W x 15" H area under the VoltShelf in my Gen 1 Volt pretty full, but the deep tray in the Bolt really makes up for the shorter car by allowing much more height.
 

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Thank you for the measurements and video. The behind the seat area is deceptively large. I typically keep the 27" D x 40" W x 15" H area under the VoltShelf in my Gen 1 Volt pretty full, but the deep tray in the Bolt really makes up for the shorter car by allowing much more height.
Alas, if they only made the volt into a wagon instead of a hatchback I would then have no problems getting a ton of luggage on a trip with a family of 4. My daughter's Subaru Crosstrek sat in the garage for a few months right next to the volt. The wheelbase is almost identical. The overall length is almost identcal, but the comfort afforded by more head and leg room in the back seats and space for lots of luggage, plus visibility of the smaller a pillar and a proper cargo cover makes this the perfect car if it only had a voltec engine.

Why doesn't GM listen to us? Make a Voltec equinox and it would sell like hotcakes. Audi needs to add about 20 miles of EV range to their Enron. Ford needs to do the same to the Cmax, but instead of that goofy car style, just put their energi platform into their escape. So maybe the bolt is back in the running as a viable car for my driveway, but probably more as a replacement car for my volt than a car to augment the volt. I'm still leaning towards a much larger ice SUV or giving up on utility and getting a much bigger car-based EV (CT6/Tesla Model S - the falcon wing doors of the X bother me)
 

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Alas, if they only made the volt into a wagon instead of a hatchback I would then have no problems getting a ton of luggage on a trip with a family of 4. My daughter's Subaru Crosstrek sat in the garage for a few months right next to the volt. The wheelbase is almost identical. The overall length is almost identcal, but the comfort afforded by more head and leg room in the back seats and space for lots of luggage, plus visibility of the smaller a pillar and a proper cargo cover makes this the perfect car if it only had a voltec engine.

Why doesn't GM listen to us? Make a Voltec equinox and it would sell like hotcakes. Audi needs to add about 20 miles of EV range to their Enron. Ford needs to do the same to the Cmax, but instead of that goofy car style, just put their energi platform into their escape. So maybe the bolt is back in the running as a viable car for my driveway, but probably more as a replacement car for my volt than a car to augment the volt. I'm still leaning towards a much larger ice SUV or giving up on utility and getting a much bigger car-based EV (CT6/Tesla Model S - the falcon wing doors of the X bother me)
Totally agree with the Equinox comment as if nothing more people in Cali would buy it have the vehicle they carve, high ground clearance, AWD and cargo room and would have a Cali HOV sticker...
 
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