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We bought the 2018 “Bluebird” about 6 weeks ago. Great price, great condition, a San Diego CA car now in Michigan. Liked it a lot immediately. 10 days later headed south from SW Michigan to Carolina Beach. A similar experience to the 2011 which we still own, but better in many ways as well. First and foremost the EV range is awesome. 3 weeks in Carolina Beach warm weather and the guessometer was usually at 60! Cruising highway 421 at 45-55 mph back and forth from the beach to the golf course sometimes I was getting Close to 5 miles per kWh. Charged every night on L1 and never used a drop of gas locally. I think the seat is a bit more comfortable as well. On the highway, I really like the 1.5 liter engine. Smoother, sounds better, much more responsive feeling in the throttle. When you’re at 65-70 and you want to get to 78-80 it goes! I was expecting a large mpg improvement over the 2011 it’s not substantially better. Maybe 36-37mpg vs 33-35 on the Gen 1. This cruising in the left lane at 78-80 mph. Overall love getting into this car anytime. Still love the 2011 it’s going to Green Tec Auto for a battery some time soon. But my impression of the 2018 is very good. If you find a great deal buy one. $4,000 tax credit available, but the sale price has to be $25,000 or less!
 

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The problem with the $4k tax credit is that now the greedy dealers know about the dang thing. This will boost the wholesale price or dealer's greed in jacking up the prices with usurious fees. You know it sure won't boost the trade-in prices. I would LOVE to pick up another Volt, or a Bolt, or a Spark EV ('15-16) if the price was affordable. But so far, the dealers I've contacted to try to ask about OTD prices have been extra dealer-y.
 

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The problem with the $4k tax credit is that now the greedy dealers know about the dang thing. This will boost the wholesale price or dealer's greed in jacking up the prices with usurious fees. You know it sure won't boost the trade-in prices. I would LOVE to pick up another Volt, or a Bolt, or a Spark EV ('15-16) if the price was affordable. But so far, the dealers I've contacted to try to ask about OTD prices have been extra dealer-y.
Well in order to qualify for the (up to) $4,000 tax credit the sale price must be under $25,000, and must be purchased from a dealer. Private sales don’t qualify. We paid $22,900 for ours, got a great deal. Any dealer with a used Gen2 priced over $25,000 needs to be aware, or be told, that their buyers don’t qualify and are leaving $4,000 on the table. This should not be difficult to understand and communicate. If a dealer try’s to pump up the bottom line with fees just say no. At my purchase of course the finance guy read all the options like rustproofing and ding insurance and other crap. I told him right at the beginning I don’t want any of that stuff. He laughed and said OK let me practice my presentation on you, I said OK and let him read through his list. Only took a few minutes then I signed for sale price, sales tax, registration and license plate, NO EXTRAS…….
 

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