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In this thread post I described my experience for a few hours at a local delivery/service center. They were organized and managed the logistics very well. https://gm-volt.com/forum/showthrea...or-quarter-with-Model-3&p=4618549#post4618549


I started there Fri at 10am helping out in several ways as my son was driving into town that day. He picked up his AWD Blue with black interior Model 3 at about 3pm. He got the Enhanced Auto Pilot (EAP) but not FSD option (future?). As he was in a state that didn't have service or delivery centers he picked it up here. He is leaving his car here and I will sell it locally at a better price (Honda Accord -- his wife is going to drive their 2013 Volt). He drove my X back as his 3 is getting windows tinted and clear 3M film put on the front this week.

That means I get to take a several hour long distance drive in his Model 3. So far it has been extremely cool. The navigation has some features that mine doesn't so far. We installed a front+rear dashcam on Sat. That was a lot of fun and he had researched it before then. An excellent video gave us good tips on how to run the cabling to the front and really helpful to the rear. Meaning best methods and locations to remove the different trim pieces (ie. where the clips were and which direction to pull toward).

The Model 3 has a somewhat stiff suspension (as has been documented in many places) but it handles great. We went to a local empty back road that I know about where I tested the before/after 'uncorking' of my 100D X. His non-perf Model 3 is fast and feels faster than my 100D X off the line. Likely the biggest diff is weight even tho I have like 25 more kWh battery size! Mapping his drive back home in ABetterRoutePlanner also showed his Model 3 to be 'better' at long distance traveling than my 100D X and I am really impressed with my X (recall I had a 90 kWh X before).

His center screen is super responsive and his AutoPilot is a little steadier than mine. I let him drive them back to back over the same routes. He doesn't have any problem at all driving without a DIC straight in front of them. Nighttime driving is the coolest in that regard. He said he easily sees the speed limit and other options with this peripheral.

I'm looking forward to a roadtrip with his Model 3 as I have at least 25K (or maybe 30K) roadtripping and AutoPilot miles of experience.

(yes, my wife is still driving our '16 Volt and other son is still driving the '11 Volt)

Five drivers and five plug- in cars!!!
 

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Great to hear that his 3 has finally arrived. It is a terrific car and you may be able to road trip the new V9 software with mad max mode if it drops early next week! Will look forward to hearing more about your impressions when you finish the trip. (As an aside, I think the Model Y built on the 3 platform will be a killer addition to the Tesla lineup and having driven the car for 3 months now I am convinced that the current sales levels of 20,000 a month should be sustainable for a very long time into the future.) Of course, it is not model X, but I am sure you will enjoy the drive. Let us know!
 

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Five drivers and five plug in cars!!!
Kudos to your family being very futuristic.
Spent 10min explaining my mother that my brother's and my $60K Tesla M3 purchases are well worth. She still was not convinced.
I am T-6 days till my M3 shows up. Who's counting... :eek:
 

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Great to hear that his 3 has finally arrived. It is a terrific car and you may be able to road trip the new V9 software with mad max mode if it drops early next week! Will look forward to hearing more about your impressions when you finish the trip. (As an aside, I think the Model Y built on the 3 platform will be a killer addition to the Tesla lineup and having driven the car for 3 months now I am convinced that the current sales levels of 20,000 a month should be sustainable for a very long time into the future.) Of course, it is not model X, but I am sure you will enjoy the drive. Let us know!
I finally drove it this morning to the tinting and clear 3M film place. While he was here, he drove it every place we went. I told him how much I liked it this morning and just then did he realize that I had not driven it yet! He apologized profusely but it was just funny to me and I didn't care in the least. He was so excited to have it and loved/s it so much.

I know exactly what you are saying about the V9 software coming up and we were both hoping that as well. I hope my AP2.0 X gets it while it is at his house too. I asked him to put my X on his wi-fi.

Re: Mad max -- https://electrek.co/2018/10/01/tesla-autopilot-new-mad-max-mode-video/

We did both anticipate/hope the built-in dashcam software comes as well (it will be nice redundancy) and put USBs with 'TeslaCam' folder on it.
https://insideevs.com/tesla-dashcam-teslacam-looks-good/
https://electrek.co/2018/09/26/tesla-dashcam-feature-autopilot-camera-version-9/

I also really excited to see how well the Model Y is received. I think they learned a lot with the manufacturing of the 'mass production' Model 3 and the 'mass production' delivery logistics so the Y should be smoother.

Kudos to your family being very futuristic.
Spent 10min explaining my mother that my brother's and my $60K Tesla M3 purchases are well worth. She still was not convinced.
I am T-6 days till my M3 shows up. Who's counting... :eek:
Looking forward to your review as a former Spark owner.
 

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what is the wh/mile of an X? My entire trip averaged out to 232 wh/mi and this was the 73+ up and 77+ down speeds. 1,683mi used 390kwh. Apparently my ten trips to SC really only cost me $13.

what dash cam did he use?
 

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what dash cam did he use?
Viofo A129: https://www.amazon.com/VIOFO-2-Channel-1080p-Camera-Logger/dp/B07CT6JPYW
Install video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5KfkzsmHwWE
He had a larger than 32GB drive and I FAT32 formatted in on my Win7 machine using: http://www.ridgecrop.demon.co.uk/index.htm?guiformat.htm (no other method we tried worked)

what is the wh/mile of an X? My entire trip averaged out to 232 wh/mi and this was the 73+ up and 77+ down speeds. 1,683mi used 390kwh. Apparently my ten trips to SC really only cost me $13.
Best way for me to answer that is with these two TMC expert notes that I kept:

VeryGreen (TMC): The rated mile on X 100D is currently 332 Watt/mile (changed in 17.26.76, used to be 324 before that). Multiply your 100% charge rated range by 332 and you have roughly your usable capacity, +4kWh for the buffer will give you 100% battery capacity.

WK057 (TMC): As for real capacity, the BMS reports usable capacity at a whopping 98.4 kWh. It also reports a 4 kWh unusable bottom charge, so that's 102.4 kWh total pack capacity!
 

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...you may be able to road trip the new V9 software...
I hope to get this v9 soon :)

https://teslamotorsclub.com/tmc/thr...v9-0-early-access-builds.129936/#post-3065542

Navigate on Autopilot (Beta)- Model 3, US ONLY!
Introducing Navigate on Autopilot (Beta) — our newest Autopilot convenience feature, designed to get you to your destination more efficiently by guiding your car on and off the highway. Navigate on Autopilot intelligently suggests lane changes to keep you on your route in addition to making adjustments so you don’t get stuck behind slow cars or trucks.
When Navigate on Autopilot is active, a single blue line indicates the path ahead, keeping your car in the lane. Gray lines highlight lane changes for a more efficient driving route. Navigate on Autopilot will also automatically steer toward and take the correct highway interchanges and exits based on your destination.
You can enable Navigate on Autopilot by going to Controls > Autopilot and first enabling Autosteer. For each route where Navigate on Autopilot is available, you have the option of enabling the feature by pressing the button located in the Navigation Turn List.

Combining Autosteer and Auto Lane Change - All cars with any AP
Autosteer (Beta) and Auto Lane Change settings are now combined under Controls > Autopilot. When Autosteer (Beta) is ON, engaging the turn signal will activate Auto Lane Change to move your car into an adjacent driving lane.

Blindspot Warning - Model 3
To improve safety and increase confidence when changing lanes, the lane line on the touchscreen now turns red when your turn signal is engaged and a vehicle or obstacle is detected in your target lane.

Dashcam - All models with AP2.5
You can now record and store video footage captured by your car’s forward facing camera onto a USB flash drive. Note that you must manually add a base-level folder in the flash drive called “TeslaCam” (without quotation marks) before it can be used for Dashcam. Refer to the Owner’s Manual for details on how to use Dashcam.

Mobile App - All cars

  • With this car software version, you can now do even more with your vehicle from your mobile app.
  • You can now start navigation in your car by using the share button in your favorite phone apps. In iOS, you can enable sharing to your vehicle by opening up the app you want to share from, tapping the More button in your sharing menu, and then scrolling to the right until you find your vehicle.
  • You can also allow your passengers to quickly control the media. Play/pause, previous/skip, and cycle through your media favorites. Note:
  • You can disable this feature by going to Media Settings > Allow Mobile Control.
  • Whenever there's a software update available for your vehicle, you can conveniently start the update from your phone. A notification will be sent to other drivers of your car, and they’ll have a few minutes to cancel the update from their app.
  • Note: these features require mobile software version 3.6.0 or above.

Calendar - Model 3
The Calendar app allows you to view your phone’s calendar for the current and next day. The Calendar is conveniently integrated with Phone and Navigation so you can dial into a meeting or route to your next meeting with a single tap. For events to appear, you must connect your phone to your car via Bluetooth and allow calendar access by enabling Calendar Sync in the Tesla mobile app settings.

Application Launcher - Model 3
Located at the bottom of your touchscreen, the new application launcher brings all your apps together in one place, including your Calendar, Energy, Web Browser, Rear View Camera, Phone and Charging apps. You can also access your last-used app by swiping upward.

Energy App - Model 3
View energy consumption in real time for your Model 3. When there is an active navigation route, touch the Trip tab to view the projected energy consumption for the trip.

Web Browser - Model 3
The Web browser app allows you to access the internet. Navigate to your desired website by entering the URL in the address bar. Easily return to your favorite sites by adding them to your Favorite using the heart icons.

Status Bar - Model 3
The status bar has been rearranged to make the time and temperature easier to view at a glance.

Climate Control - Model 3
It's now easier to direct airflow where you want it with the new Model 3 Airwave visualization. When you're done, you can now simply swipe the Climate panel down to dismiss. The temperature settings on the bottom bar can now be controlled with a simple swipe: swipe to the left to lower the setting, or to the right to raise it. Tapping or pressing and holding the control will continue to work as before. As before, if you'd like to have different passenger and driver temperatures, simply unsync to reveal two temperature settings.

Navigation - M3
Directions have been moved to the left side of the screen, and simplified to display relevant upcoming information—including highway exits, when applicable. Tap or pull down to see additional details in the full Trip Overview. Navigation settings including voice guidance volume can easily be adjusted by tapping the settings icon on the touchscreen map.

Use HOV Lanes - S/X/3 - US, Canada, Mexico
To improve Navigation’s ability to provide relevant instructions, you can now select whether or not your vehicle is eligible for high-occupancy vehicle (HOV) lanes. When enabled, Navigation will route you though HOV lanes. When disabled, Navigation avoids routing you through HOV lanes. Tap the settings icon on the bottom corner of the map then enable or disable Use HOV Lanes as desired.
 

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I picked up my 3P yesterday and traded my '12 Volt on it. The Model 3 is like a Volt on steroids. Very easy to get used to. chill vs sport mode is very similar to normal vs sport mode on the Volt, the accelerator pedal is remapped but there is no more power available. Pushing the pedal to the floor results in the same acceleration. Normal mode regen is very similar to low. Stronger, more like using the brake pedal before the friction brakes kick in. Again very easy to get used to. The location of the speedometer took about 10 seconds to get used to. The steering wheel, or my arms is never in the way and the black numerals on the white background attracts your eye as the numbers charge.

My test drive car had EAP but I decided just to stick with the standard AP. I guess I've been driving too long because my opinion of where the car should be in the lane differed from EAPs enough that I was repeatedly disengaging the autosteer. It always seemed late correcting to me.

As I had hoped the Volt was the perfect gateway car for the Model 3. I hope who ever ends up with my Volt feels likewise. It was an awesome car and experience.
 

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Great to hear that his 3 has finally arrived. It is a terrific car and you may be able to road trip the new V9 software with mad max mode if it drops early next week! Will look forward to hearing more about your impressions when you finish the trip. (As an aside, I think the Model Y built on the 3 platform will be a killer addition to the Tesla lineup and having driven the car for 3 months now I am convinced that the current sales levels of 20,000 a month should be sustainable for a very long time into the future.) Of course, it is not model X, but I am sure you will enjoy the drive. Let us know!
I really enjoyed my drive of my son's Model 3 down to him over 350 miles away. It is really a comfortable ride! It didn't take long at all to get use to the center screen. The navigation is different than my X in that I have a detailed view on my DIC (left side) and map overview in my center. On the 3 the details and map are on the same nav. It was very slick and I love the 3D tilted birdseye view and how it changes to a 'flat' overhead when you get close to your next turn or Y. It was quite efficient and charged a little faster than my X 100D. I stopped at an earlier Supercharger than it suggested as I wanted lunch and a bathroom break. I also meet my son 50 minutes away from his home at the end of his workday and we ate dinner with both Tesla filling up 'full' by the time we were done. We drove around a few times as I helped him with projects and the car really fit him well and he was 100% comfortable with it (recall he drove a Volt for a couple years).

My X 100D downloaded firmware v9 in his garage and we got to check that out. The virtual 360-degree surround of cars around you is great and the new blindside detection works excellent. Sometimes in the past I would purposefully turn on my auto-lane change blinker movement when I'm about at the cab of a semi-truck ... and it would simply wait until it passed the semi far enough and moved over in front of it (think seeing the grill in rear-view mirror distance). This morning on my trip back home I did the same thing but it shows a red lane line where that truck is. Obviously, in this example, I know the truck is there but in other examples when changing lane it shows red when the vehicle is in your blind spot and doesn't change lanes.

As a parent, I am happy to see this as well ---
Title: NHTSA On Tesla Model 3: Lowest Probability Of Injury Of Any Tested Vehicle
https://insideevs.com/nhtsa-tesla-model-3-safest-vehicle-tested/
 
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