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A beautiful red 2+2 AWD 2G Roadster coming in 2020. I’m in!!!

I forgot about the truck event, tuned in just as the red car was rolled out.

Finally, but still coming at a glacial pace. I want it now!! The gauntlet has been thrown down. GM must now beat Tesla to the market by a year with an eVette...

semi? what semi? I didn't see a pair of semis....these are not the vehicles you are looking for



And several prettier pics here: https://www.theverge.com/2017/11/17/16669024/tesla-roadster-2017-fastest-car-world
 

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Who cares when you see the specs.

From Electrek
And the next-gen Roadster just emerged from the Semi…
All numbers are for the base model…
Roadster 2 does 0-60 in 1.9 seconds
Fastest production car ever
Quarter mile in 8.9 seconds
620 mile range
0 to 100 in 4.2 seconds
200KWH battery pack
250+ mph top speed
“The point of doing this is to give a hardcore smackdown to internal combustion cars.” – Elon

If Tesla meets these deadlines (2019 truck and 2020 roadster) they are so far ahead it isn't even funny.

The Semi gives them an in to the highly lucrative pickup market. I wouldn't be surprised if they become the largest auto company in 15 years.
 

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There are plenty on the web. Super sexy.

I now see that Elon's arrogance towards other automakers for not trying wasn't arrogance at all, they really aren't trying in comparison.
 

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I still see the jerk but no matter, the lighting is crap anyway as usual.



And the possible fakes (looks legit enough):






Still shaped like a Lotus, especially from the rear.

“The point of doing this is to give a hardcore smackdown to internal combustion cars.” - HAHAHAAAAAA!!! What an ego. :rolleyes:
 

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And the possible fakes (looks legit enough):
These look to be embargoed press kit pics, given to all the major web/news folks before the reveal so they can hit the web right away. They wrote their articles maybe an hour or two before the surprise. My previous employer would send all sorts of stuff like this to managers just prior to any big announcement.
 

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Now the real question: is the Gen 2 Roadster DICless?
Yes. Just a screen on the center console. I was watching a 3rd party feed. After the event, he walked up to the car and took some very detailed shots. Steering wheel looked like an aircraft wheel. (Rectangularish, with hand grips on either side.). And the screen was a mock up, not a real display. A lot can, and no doubt will, change in the next three years.

The Roadster specs are incredible. And Elon stated those were the specs for the ‘base level’ car. It hints that the Model S and X are going to get some big battery upgrades soon too.

New word in the lexicon: Megachargers. Can give a Tesla Semi pulling 80k lbs a 400 mile charge in 30 min.
 

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And the screen was a mock up, not a real display.
Software team has a lot of unfinished business with the 3.

New word in the lexicon: Megachargers. Can give a Tesla Semi pulling 80k lbs a 400 mile charge in 30 min.
Well that's interesting. Last we heard the truck was only good for 200-300 miles. Now it's 400? I want to see the cables that will do this amazing thing.
 

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Yes. Just a screen on the center console. I was watching a 3rd party feed. After the event, he walked up to the car and took some very detailed shots. Steering wheel looked like an aircraft wheel. (Rectangularish, with hand grips on either side.). And the screen was a mock up, not a real display. A lot can, and no doubt will, change in the next three years.

The Roadster specs are incredible. And Elon stated those were the specs for the ‘base level’ car. It hints that the Model S and X are going to get some big battery upgrades soon too.

New word in the lexicon: Megachargers. Can give a Tesla Semi pulling 80k lbs a 400 mile charge in 30 min.
And there’s the quandary: gorgeous, envious, red-hot car vs. driving around DICless

The Tesla website was just updated. $45k tommake a reservation for the roadster, $250k to get yourself a Founders Edition to be one of the first in line. I won’t be first, but need to start saving pennies now.
 

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And there’s the quandary: gorgeous, envious, red-hot car vs. driving around DICless

The Tesla website was just updated. $45k tommake a reservation for the roadster, $250k to get yourself a Founders Edition to be one of the first in line. I won’t be first, but need to start saving pennies now.
You can't part with the cash for a Suburban. :rolleyes:

I wouldn't be too sure that a 1/4 mil car won't have a DIC. That was just car porn.
 

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Roadster looks awesome. Tesla should have stayed a niche manufacturer of electric performance cars. They are good at that.

Anyway, a capital raise coming soon for the Semi. Proceeds to be thrown at Model 3 production. They will claim crazy-off-the-hook demand for the Semi but deposit totals reported in the financials will be obfuscated by deposits for the Roadster. Like the Powerwall, Solar Roof and other uneconomic ideas, the Semi will not succeed.

Same old Tesla.
 

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Dream Large........
 

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You can't part with the cash for a Suburban. :rolleyes:

I wouldn't be too sure that a 1/4 mil car won't have a DIC. That was just car porn.
New pics on the Tesla website shows it’s DICless. A heads up display showing the speed on the windshield would solve that.

As for the cash for the Suburban, i’m 5 figures away from paying off the house. If i’m still employed in 2021 I will be able to roll my trail of 401k’s from the last 3 companies i’ve worked for into my current 401k and use the rule of 55 to quit and get to it without penalty. But that will also mean i’ll draw a line in the sand in 2020, skim off the top to live off of, and we’ll need another great year like this last 18 months where my nest egg grew by a half a mil to be able to buy something like this. But if the market tanks, no fancy new car for me.

At $200k, the NSX, GT-R or i8 look like bargains right now. Maybe the EV Porsche can undercut the Tesla roadster....plenty of time to change my mind. Sure, they might have a few hundred or thousand reservations by then, but I doubt the line will be as long as the TM3. By then we will know whether Tesla survives production hell. One thing that really bothers me is that they keep trying to borrowing their way out of debt, on the backs of future promises. That’s not sustainable until they shore up the balance sheet. So again, we’re all on the sidelines waiting for 2 more vehicular deliveries.
 

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Anyone have an extra $250,000 lying around that they would like to give me? Dang, I might need to reconsider my anti-lottery position.
 

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Anyone have an extra $250,000 lying around that they would like to give me? Dang, I might need to reconsider my anti-lottery position.
Stay in that anti-lottery position, pay off all your debts as quickly as possible, incur no new debt, invest in good growth stock mutual funds, and you’ll have that $200k in no time. Get the base model and don’t get the first founder editions saves you $50k. It’s amazing how much cash grows when you have no payments.
 

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I still see the jerk but no matter, the lighting is crap anyway as usual.



And the possible fakes (looks legit enough):






Still shaped like a Lotus, especially from the rear.

“The point of doing this is to give a hardcore smackdown to internal combustion cars.” - HAHAHAAAAAA!!! What an ego. :rolleyes:
He is a self made billionaire that dates super models. Launches rockets to the ISS and lands them on barges in the ocean. Maybe if you did 1/10000 of that you would have an ego also.
 

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He is a self made billionaire that dates super models. Launches rockets to the ISS and lands them on barges in the ocean. Maybe if you did 1/10000 of that you would have an ego also.
There really is no reason to be in the triple comma club when double commas are more than enough. When fame and fortune get to an astronomical level, it's bound to make you weird. Or maybe it's the other way around, you have to be weird to become a billionaire.
 

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here we have a guy/company with imagination and no cash, on the other hand we have GM with no imagination and ton's of cash....

Just think where we'd be if those deficits could be eliminated
 
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