[DonC]

A few years ago Dyson bought Sakti3, a Michigan start up with promising solid state battery technology. Apparently the technology works. Dyson has announced its working on its own EV which will debut by 2020: https://finance.yahoo.com/news/dyson-plans-release-own-ev-165000840.html

If you were wondering whether solid state batteries would work, it seems that we have an early answer.

Solid state batteries are a big deal. Not only are they more energy dense, which means less expensive, they are also far safer and able to withstand higher and lower temperatures without degrading. Hence even more savings at the pack level. A bonus is that they should be able to be fabricated on existing production lines.

 

[linkim]

Will be interesting to see what Dyson produces. Meanwhile Toyota has also announced they will be introducing an EV with solid-state batteries in 2022. For all the technology that Toyota has in-house, they are slow to market pure battery-powered EVs, probably because the company is conservative and mainly focused on FCEVs.

http://www.digitaljournal.com/tech-...or-the-best-battery-technology/article/501559

 

[Steverino]

Dyson to make electric cars from 2020

Dyson, the engineering company best known for its vacuum cleaners and fans, plans to spend £2bn developing a "radical" electric car.

The battery-powered vehicle is due to be launched in 2020.

However, the car does not yet exist, with no prototype built, and a factory site is yet to be chosen. And Dyson promised that it will not be cheap. It would look "radical and different", but will not be aimed at the mass market.

The motor is designed and ready to go.

http://www.bbc.com/news/business-41399497

What we needed, another high priced niche EV.

 

[saghost]

Interesting times. I would have thought any viable solid state battery would show up in cell phones first, where the margins are higher and the environment less controlled (hence more benefit from the solid state design,) and then in laptops before anyone considered cars.

 

[Steverino]

So, will Dyson EV's suck less, or suck more?

 

[!arry4pyro]

Didn't the founder of Sakti3, Ann Marie Sastry head GM battery development for the gen 1 Volt?

 

[DonC]

Interesting times. I would have thought any viable solid state battery would show up in cell phones first, where the margins are higher and the environment less controlled (hence more benefit from the solid state design,) and then in laptops before anyone considered cars.

Yes. My expectations as well. It's possible or likely that announcing the batteries for cars may just be a PR calculation. Dyson sells consumer products, and it wouldn't be surprising if we see the batteries show up in some of the products before 2020. However, announcing a new battery for a hand vacuum cleaner likely doesn't create as much buzz as announcing an electric car. Note that half the engineers are working on the battery.

 

[linkim]

Didn't the founder of Sakti3, Ann Marie Sastry head GM battery development for the gen 1 Volt?

Ann Marie Sastry was/is a tenured professor in Mechanical Engineering at UM Ann Arbor. I visited her laboratory many years ago when she was still a junior professor. She is a very smart and knowledgable engineer who did some research in the DOE battery program on Li-ion battery technology.

 

[fotomoto1]

You mod's need to get on the same page: http://gm-volt.com/forum/showthread.php?300169

tsk, tsk, tsk..... <JK>

 

[Qinsp]

So, will Dyson EV's suck less, or suck more?

Dyson also makes fans, hair dryers, and hand dryers.

So perhaps the Dyson E-Car will suck. Or it might just blow.

 

[DonC]

You mod's need to get on the same page: http://gm-volt.com/forum/showthread.php?300169

tsk, tsk, tsk..... <JK>

Hey. Not an issue. I get a pass because mine was posted first. And Steverino gets a pass because my headline talked about Sakti3 not Dyson, and Steverino might not have made the connection (sic).

I will say this thread has more humor, bad as the puns are.

 

[sparks]

So, will Dyson EV's suck less, or suck more?

I think it will be filling a vacuum.

 

[El Dobro]

I think it will be filling a vacuum.

Maybe we should void it then.

 

[DonC]

Didn't the founder of Sakti3, Ann Marie Sastry head GM battery development for the gen 1 Volt?

I think you're remembering Denise Gray, who is now president of LG Chem in the USA.