[inee]

so i was watching the chevy videos today and they were all on gen 1. some differences i saw were:

1. charging cable had LED lighting - OMG why the hell did they remove this? every night when i come home i need the damn light.

2. press a button to open charge door - this would have been better if we could press a door to open and close it. so many times i tried driving off with my charge door open. had to stop somewhere just to close the damn thing.

3. square on/off button - i actually like this versus the common round one.

im sure there are others on the gen 1 that the gen 2 doesnt have but these are the ones that jumped out on me.

thoughts?

 

[jcanoe]

What generation Volt do you drive?

There are many differences between the Gen I Volt and Gen II Volt. Aside from the visual differences the truly important changes are under the hood.

Gen II: New Voltec drive system designed to use regular gas. Improved MPG when using the gas engine. Larger traction battery (18.4KWH), greater battery range (53miles). Slightly smaller fuel tank (8.9 gal) than Gen I. Higher power on-board charger (3.6KW versus 3.3KW in Gen I).

Extensive list of new safety and driver convenience features and options. Backup camera (standard on Gen II), low speed collision warning and collision avoidance. See Driver Confidence Packages I and II for a full list of optional features. Adaptive Cruise Control (only available on Gen II Premier Volt as a option once you have Driver Confidence Packages I and II.)

Seating: Gen II technically includes seating for 5 (third seat belt added to rear seat.)

 

[inee]

yes i have a 2017. im aware of all the improvements of the gen 2. my point was that there are gen1 things that i wish was on the gen2.

 

[skiflyer]

No list is complete without the two oft discussed changes... gen 1 had Homelink rearview mirror (option) and blinkers on the wing mirrors.

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[inee]

No list is complete without the two oft discussed changes... gen 1 had Homelink rearview mirror (option) and blinkers on the wing mirrors.

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AGH! why did they remove!

 

[jcanoe]

Ah, now I understand. There is the stalk on the steering column of the Gen I Volt that when pulled causes the Gen I Volt to emit a pedestrian warning sound. In contrast, the Gen II Volt continuously emits a UFO type sound effect whenever the Gen II is shifted out of Park, at speeds up to 20mph. I believe the early examples of GM supplied EVSE for the Gen I Volt include a light in the J1772 connector handle.

 

[llninja]

Other items missing in g2 that were in g1

Lower rear window in the lift gate (Amy dog loves this window)
Built-in HDD from 2011-12 infotainment systems
A car that doesn't look goofy when you add the front license place bracket
A crazy collection of touch buttons that are completely unintuitive and useless (what is the TP button for, a toilet paper launcher).
The ability to accidentally power off the car when attempting to switch drive modes
101 mph stop speed
A distinctive looking car that doesn't look like a Honda
The ability to substitute Cadillac CTS wheels and spare tire

 

[CraigCa]

Homelink will probably be obsolete soon. New garage door openers use a button on your smartphone or geofencing.

 

[jbakerjonathan]

No list is complete without the two oft discussed changes... gen 1 had Homelink rearview mirror (option) and blinkers on the wing mirrors.

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...and more comfortable seats, IMO. But, Gen1 lacks heating/cooling vents for the rear passengers. Also, Gen1s come with inferior tires, IMO. Gen1 lacks a heated steering wheel.

 

[jsmay311]

Yeah... I really wanted to upgrade to a Gen 2 Volt, but that round power button is a non-starter.

 

[mbsmd]

Ah, now I understand. There is the stalk on the steering column of the Gen I Volt that when pulled causes the Gen I Volt to emit a pedestrian warning sound. In contrast, the Gen II Volt continuously emits a UFO type sound effect whenever the Gen II is shifted out of Park, at speeds up to 20mph. I believe the early examples of GM supplied EVSE for the Gen I Volt include a light in the J1772 connector handle.

Mine doesn't (any more). Can be disabled by pulling just the right fuse.

 

[bluzer1]

Yeah... I really wanted to upgrade to a Gen 2 Volt, but that round power button is a non-starter.

Burn!

 

[jcanoe]

Mine doesn't (any more). Can be disabled by pulling just the right fuse.

The only time I find that I can hear the Gen II Volt's UFO-like sound effect is when I am driving into or out of my garage and have the windows rolled down.

 

[saghost]

so i was watching the chevy videos today and they were all on gen 1. some differences i saw were:

1. charging cable had LED lighting - OMG why the hell did they remove this? every night when i come home i need the damn light.

2. press a button to open charge door - this would have been better if we could press a door to open and close it. so many times i tried driving off with my charge door open. had to stop somewhere just to close the damn thing.

Gen 2 has an optional illuminated port I believe, like is standard on Ford EVs and Tesla. That's arguably better than the light in the handle. (And available as a dealer installed retrofit, I think?)

I'm surprised no one has mentioned this yet, but the 2011-2013 Volts with the electric charge door (2014 and 2015 Generation 1 car are a manual push door like Gen 2 cars,) only opened the door.

It wouldn't have helped you in the situations you describe, and there were many times when I had to get back out after getting in to shut the charge door. Mine actually occasionally triggered at odd times while driving, too (maybe once a year?) - or maybe the adjustment was marginal and it sometimes lost its grip on the door? There was a fob button for it too, so maybe I was hitting that in my pocket, but I don't think so.

You're certainly right that a fully motorized door like newer Teslas have is convenient, but that's not what early Volts had.

 

[inee]

...and more comfortable seats, IMO. But, Gen1 lacks heating/cooling vents for the rear passengers. Also, Gen1s come with inferior tires, IMO. Gen1 lacks a heated steering wheel.

heating/cooling for the rear seats? but they still dont have rear vents?

Other items missing in g2 that were in g1

Lower rear window in the lift gate (Amy dog loves this window)
Built-in HDD from 2011-12 infotainment systems
A car that doesn't look goofy when you add the front license place bracket
A crazy collection of touch buttons that are completely unintuitive and useless (what is the TP button for, a toilet paper launcher).
The ability to accidentally power off the car when attempting to switch drive modes
101 mph stop speed
A distinctive looking car that doesn't look like a Honda
The ability to substitute Cadillac CTS wheels and spare tire

ohh HDD could have been nice. and are you saying the gen2 looks like a honda now?

Ah, now I understand. There is the stalk on the steering column of the Gen I Volt that when pulled causes the Gen I Volt to emit a pedestrian warning sound. In contrast, the Gen II Volt continuously emits a UFO type sound effect whenever the Gen II is shifted out of Park, at speeds up to 20mph. I believe the early examples of GM supplied EVSE for the Gen I Volt include a light in the J1772 connector handle.

pedestrian warning sound? for what? and i dont know what this ufo sound is.

 

[inee]

Yeah... I really wanted to upgrade to a Gen 2 Volt, but that round power button is a non-starter.

yeah, aesthetics and originality matter to some people. welcome to the world. we just had a comment about looking like a honda. my 14 civic ex had a round start button. so did my 12 mitsubishi outlander sport. my 17 pilot has the same blue round button. for a change, having a square green one deserves mention.

 

[mr_raider]

2. press a button to open charge door - this would have been better if we could press a door to open and close it. so many times i tried driving off with my charge door open. had to stop somewhere just to close the damn thing.

The car screams bloody murder and tell you the charge door is open.

Other items missing in g2 that were in g1
The ability to substitute Cadillac CTS wheels and spare tire

The gen 1 Cruze wheels and spare are a perfect fit.

 

[llninja]

The gen 1 Cruze wheels and spare are a perfect fit.

But rolling in caddy wheels is so much cooler looking than Cruze wheels.

 

[Bacardi]

Homelink will probably be obsolete soon. New garage door openers use a button on your smartphone or geofencing.

That's not entirely true...New garage openers have the premium OPTION to add connectivity but all the major company's sell non-connected versions...Furthermore relying a smartphone is a step backwards (geofencing is a step forward)...Imagine if you bought the Note 7, it burns up and now no garage door opener...Phones can get stolen or can break...Until it's removed from all Caddys (it's standard) and Chevys own Silverado, homelink or the universal remote isn't going anyone...

 

[llninja]

That's not entirely true...New garage openers have the premium OPTION to add connectivity but all the major company's sell non-connected versions...Furthermore relying a smartphone is a step backwards (geofencing is a step forward)...Imagine if you bought the Note 7, it burns up and now no garage door opener...Phones can get stolen or can break...Until it's removed from all Caddys (it's standard) and Chevys own Silverado, homelink or the universal remote isn't going anyone...

You mean anywhere....