[Qinsp]

Since it shares little with the ELR, I put this in Volt General.

If I read this right, it has little optional equipment, nearly everything is inclusive if I'm reading this correctly:

http://gmauthority.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/2017-Cadillac-CT6-Plug-In-Order-Guide.pdf

It appears all cars sold in the US are PLUG-IN RWD 6KL69/1SH1 equipment group.

This means you get video rearview mirror, night vision, surround vision with recorders, Adaptive Cruise, AEB, etc, at the lowest trim level. 0-60mph in 5.2s by running as a RWD in series hybrid mode.

Somebody who speaks better GM Order Sheet might clarify.

 

[bjrosen]

It's sad that they don't offer the CT6-PHEV with a decent sized battery. The CT6 only has 30 miles of battery range which is painfully inadequate, it should have at least equaled the Volts range and preferably offered more (after it's a Cadillac not a Chevy).

 

[telveer]

It's sad that they don't offer the CT6-PHEV with a decent sized battery. The CT6 only has 30 miles of battery range which is painfully inadequate, it should have at least equaled the Volts range and preferably offered more (after it's a Cadillac not a Chevy).

This is a PHEV, and not EREV like the Volt/ELR. In the PHEV world, 30 miles EV range is tops.

In luxury segment, closest competition is Mercedes, which offers about 20 miles of EV range (C350/S550)
In non-luxury segment, Chyrsler Pacifica is the only other PHEV that offers 30 miles of EV range

 

[llninja]

So how much is this beast? I like the roominess, am willing to settle for the lower range, though 50 or 60 miles of range would have made this the real deal.

 

[Qinsp]

So how much is this beast? I like the roominess, am willing to settle for the lower range, though 50 or 60 miles of range would have made this the real deal.

Should be 1 arm and 1 leg before a 5 toe and a thumb rebate.

 

[Qinsp]

It does have the 18.4 kWh battery in it. I would not be surprised if people exceed the 30 mile range easily.

$75k MSRP after Dest. For California, $9,000 off total. So $66k.

 

[Bacardi]

It's sad that they don't offer the CT6-PHEV with a decent sized battery. The CT6 only has 30 miles of battery range which is painfully inadequate, it should have at least equaled the Volts range and preferably offered more (after it's a Cadillac not a Chevy).

The ICE CT6 is made here for here...The CT6 PHEV is made in China for the Chinese market (still like sedans; owner most likely will be sitting in the backseat and will hire a driver) to qualify for the Chinese incentives...
Note: The ICE CT6 gets GM's first auto pilot competitor, super cruise...It's not available on the PHEV CT6...

 

[RoRo]

The ICE CT6 is made here for here...The CT6 PHEV is made in China for the Chinese market (still like sedans; owner most likely will be sitting in the backseat and will hire a driver) to qualify for the Chinese incentives...
Note: The ICE CT6 gets GM's first auto pilot competitor, super cruise...It's not available on the PHEV CT6...

I was considering the CT6 PHEV and once it was confirmed to be imported from China it was off of my list.

 

[DonC]

I think you're better at reading this than I am but from what I understand you are exactly correct. I think it also gets the rear seat infotainment system. What's funny is that if you account for the rebates/credits it's less expensive than a the next trim level down with these includes.

It's on my list. The CT6 is an beautiful car, vastly superior and with more room than the XT5. My concern is that the battery pack will eat up too much trunk space. That's outweighed by the night vision which to me is a huge safety feature.

Because the battery pack eats up so much space, the CT6 hybrid can't accommodate the handling package, the top end sound system, and SuperCruise.

 

[llninja]

Should be 1 arm and 1 leg before a 5 toe and a thumb rebate.

My state doesn't do the thumb rebate. So I only get 5 toes. The state deserves the finger.

 

[llninja]

It does have the 18.4 kWh battery in it. I would not be surprised if people exceed the 30 mile range easily.

$75k MSRP after Dest. For California, $9,000 off total. So $66k.

For that price, it's a tough call. Model S60D or CT6 PHEV? I really want a S100D but the prices are killer.

 

[Loboc]

For that price, it's a tough call. Model S60D or CT6 PHEV? I really want a S100D but the prices are killer.

I'd bet that the Caddy has better service shops and lower defect rate.

I'm considering this as a replacement for ELR, but I got a couple years yet before I'm ready to give up my show car. In a couple years, lots of competition including better CT6.

 

[llninja]

I'd bet that the Caddy has better service shops and lower defect rate.

I'm considering this as a replacement for ELR, but I got a couple years yet before I'm ready to give up my show car. In a couple years, lots of competition including better CT6.

I too am on the sidelines for the agonizingly slow wait for something new. I don't like the Bolt, registered then cancelled on the Model 3, and am still waiting for the CT6 PHEV to actually arrive. I may give up buying an ICE vehicle in the interim, but then that delays the next EV by at least a decade. We're ready for another new car in the next 18 months or so. I was too impatient with the ELR - gave up when I saw the initial MSRP and should have held to my guns, waited and bought a show car like you heavily discounted

 

[Jeff N]

The ICE CT6 is made here for here...The CT6 PHEV is made in China for the Chinese market (still like sedans; owner most likely will be sitting in the backseat and will hire a driver) to qualify for the Chinese incentives...
Note: The ICE CT6 gets GM's first auto pilot competitor, super cruise...It's not available on the PHEV CT6...

I'm not aware of any car getting SuperCruise yet. It was delayed a year.

 

[Jeff N]

Since it shares little with the ELR, I put this in Volt General.

If I read this right, it has little optional equipment, nearly everything is inclusive if I'm reading this correctly:

http://gmauthority.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2017/01/2017-Cadillac-CT6-Plug-In-Order-Guide.pdf

It appears all cars sold in the US are PLUG-IN RWD 6KL69/1SH1 equipment group.

This means you get video rearview mirror, night vision, surround vision with recorders, Adaptive Cruise, AEB, etc, at the lowest trim level. 0-60mph in 5.2s by running as a RWD in series hybrid mode.

The CT6 hybrid uses a design that extends the basic internal gearing concepts of the new Malibu hybrid and 2nd generation Bolt with an additional planetary gear set and in a RWD configuration. As such, it does not have a series hybrid mode. When the gas engine is running, it operates as either a power-split hybrid where most engine power flows through the transmission mechanically and some electrically with the generator and motor via 4 possibly EVT power-split modes or it can operate as a parallel hybrid using one of 3 possible fixed gear ratios. The actual mode used at any particular time is seemlessly and automatically chosen using transmission clutches based upon vehicle speed and power requirements. There is no series hybrid mode as there was on the original generation Volt and Cadillac ELR.

 

[Qinsp]

The CT6 hybrid uses a design that extends the basic internal gearing concepts of the new Malibu hybrid and 2nd generation Bolt with an additional planetary gear set and in a RWD configuration. As such, it does not have a series hybrid mode. When the gas engine is running, it operates as either a power-split hybrid where most engine power flows through the transmission mechanically and some electrically with the generator and motor via 4 possibly EVT power-split modes or it can operate as a parallel hybrid using one of 3 possible fixed gear ratios. The actual mode used at any particular time is seemlessly and automatically chosen using transmission clutches based upon vehicle speed and power requirements. There is no series hybrid mode as there was on the original generation Volt and Cadillac ELR.

My bad. By series, I meant that the gas engine will add to the total powertrain output. I was thinking parallel was either or, or blended to yield the same output when series would increase output like a KERS does.

 

[Jeff N]

The CT6 hybrid uses a design that extends the basic internal gearing concepts of the new Malibu hybrid and 2nd generation Bolt....

Ack! I meant Volt, not Bolt.

 

[Bacardi]

I'm not aware of any car getting SuperCruise yet. It was delayed a year.

Correct that it was delayed a year but it's coming this year (unless GM decides to either further delay it), odds are for MY18 this fall...

http://gmauthority.com/blog/2017/01/super-cruise-scheduled-to-launch-during-the-second-half-of-2017/