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http://www.consumerreports.org/talk...strike-in-electric-car-wars-talking-cars-103/

These clowns are completely hung up on the Bolt's looks, calling it "dorky" and "boring".

Really show their overall ignorance about EVs in general. These guys should stick to reviewing toasters and refrigerators.

They do talk nice at the end about the infotainment/tech features of the Bolt, but they don't like the shifter?

They also skewer the Model X as well, saying it is "an SUV that has no functionality".
 

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http://www.consumerreports.org/talk...strike-in-electric-car-wars-talking-cars-103/

These clowns are completely hung up on the Bolt's looks, calling it "dorky" and "boring".

Really show their overall ignorance about EVs in general. These guys should stick to reviewing toasters and refrigerators.

They do talk nice at the end about the infotainment/tech features of the Bolt, but they don't like the shifter?

They also skewer the Model X as well, saying it is "an SUV that has no functionality".

If they are clowns and should stick to toasters, why read, watch, or share it...interesting.
 

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Well, it discusses and shows the Bolt, so regardless of their slanted views, it is more info to digest.

It's funny. They bash the Bolt's boring looks, but then don't say anything critical of the new Prius's styling. I need some of what the CR guys are drinking!
 

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Regretfully, CR carries weight, wether their information is accurate or not and in truth that goes for toasters as well. With that said, it was one CR's more balanced segments. Though no new real information on Bolt's handling other than its fun to drive and other trivial tidbits were put forward.
 

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If the Bolt EV is dorky looking, so are millions of other cars with CUV styling. They want to compare its styling to a future sports car sedan rather than a CUV because, uh, they have to find something to be negative about, it's a Chevy.

They actually slam the car for having lots of visibility, lots of room, good seating. According to the two men at least, those should have been sacrificed for "style". Give me a break.

They go on to praise the car's engineering and utility, so they are simply hung up on the superficial. I suspect they spend $200 on jeans...
 

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regardless of their slanted views
Thanks for the link, bro. I really didn't notice much of a slant. The discussion was clearly superficial and playful, but probably useful for their intended audience. They were quite complimentary toward the Bolt overall. Obviously they don't think the Bolt is pretty, and I have to agree. I don't need my car to be pretty, but I do enjoy good performance, practicality, and cool technology, all of which the CR guys emphasized. And I'm not worried about the shifter, I think I'll be able to figure it out!
 

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They aren't kidding about the talking part of 'Talking Cars'. It's all talking with very little content. And pretty much zero new content.
 

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I just saw the video. The Bolt *is* somewhat dorky looking, and the shifter sounds problematic as they described it. However, on the whole they seemed really impressed with it. But since they're "clowns", we should not believe that.
 

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If the Bolt EV is dorky looking, so are millions of other cars with CUV styling. They want to compare its styling to a future sports car sedan rather than a CUV because, uh, they have to find something to be negative about, it's a Chevy.

They actually slam the car for having lots of visibility, lots of room, good seating. According to the two men at least, those should have been sacrificed for "style". Give me a break.

They go on to praise the car's engineering and utility, so they are simply hung up on the superficial. I suspect they spend $200 on jeans...
They did NOT slam the car on having good visibility, lots of room, and good seating. It was praise on all those aspects. I don't know what you're talking about.
 

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They did NOT slam the car on having good visibility, lots of room, and good seating. It was praise on all those aspects. I don't know what you're talking about.
They spent a ton of time criticizing the Bolt's exterior looks, then glossed over all the positive features quickly at the end. Barely mention any of the new tech/safety features (rear view vision mirror, surround camera, etc...), but make sure to pound in the point the Bolt doesn't look like a Tesla.
 

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The Bolt is not very attactive. It looks like a Honda Fit, Versa Note or Chevy Sonic. Not innovative. If it would have had some style, like the VW ID concept or the Audi Avant, then it would have the whole package and be a real problem for the Model 3. Tesla cars have style, which is what sells cars. The Bolt like the Gen 2 Volt are generic Chevy forms- they all have the same styling ques that are not that innovative or interesting. The Bolt looks like a big Sonic. The Gen 2 Volt looks like a Cruze with a different grille and tail lights. This makes it hard for someone to justify the premium they command. Style means 300,000 people putting down a $1000 for car they have not seen.
 

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They did NOT slam the car on having good visibility, lots of room, and good seating. It was praise on all those aspects. I don't know what you're talking about.
Styling conversation starting at 7:36 to 7:56. "They did not compromise (visibility, room, seats) for style." They implied Chevy should have made the car less functional as a CUV by sacrificing visibility, room, seating so it could be more stylish. So yes, they are slamming it. Utility is exactly what I want. I don't want or need another sedan.
 

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I know we spend a lot of time thinking about exterior styling, but the bottom line in truth we should be more concerned how it drives and comfort factor. The truth is we spend more time driving the car and not looking at it. so if were concern about looks then its because were more concern on how strangers on the most part perceive the car or us driving the car. I can only talk for myself, but while driving I can't see exterior of the car.
 

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They spent a ton of time criticizing the Bolt's exterior looks, then glossed over all the positive features quickly at the end. Barely mention any of the new tech/safety features (rear view vision mirror, surround camera, etc...), but make sure to pound in the point the Bolt doesn't look like a Tesla.
We all know I'm particular critical with features/options...I mean, has anyone ever truly praised with the mirror or surround? Both are only available with the Premier, the mirror is almost unnecessary blind spot monitoring while the surround camera is negated by it having self park; would be better suited for a larger vehicle especially when towing...Take a poll of the average public and ask what features you'd like and I'd imagine you'd see power/vented/memory seats, ACC, sunroof far before the display mirror and surround...

Perhaps the best "tech/safety" feature on the Bolt EV is the self-sealing tires which also helps with the commercial side such as Maven as it reduces the downtime/expensive to send out someone to fix the tire...
 

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To me, this video seems to be very superficial comments by CR staff. In passing they acknowledge the Bolt's engineering excellence, but they seem to drift back repeatedly to compare the Bolt styling with a Tesla. They don't mention maintenance problems with Tesla. These are two different cars. Near the end, they also show their bias against the Volt, ignoring the high owner satisfaction and general good reliability. It's as if they do not understand what they are reviewing.
 

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The Bolt is not very attactive. It looks like a Honda Fit, Versa Note or Chevy Sonic. Not innovative. If it would have had some style, like the VW ID concept or the Audi Avant, then it would have the whole package and be a real problem for the Model 3. Tesla cars have style, which is what sells cars. The Bolt like the Gen 2 Volt are generic Chevy forms- they all have the same styling ques that are not that innovative or interesting. The Bolt looks like a big Sonic. The Gen 2 Volt looks like a Cruze with a different grille and tail lights. This makes it hard for someone to justify the premium they command. Style means 300,000 people putting down a $1000 for car they have not seen.
Just for informational purposes: A Tesla Model 3 will cost more than an ICE that looks the same, the classic 4 door sedan look:

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The car in the picture is really on the road at $17k in huge quantities.

I'm on the early list for the Model 3, but from what I've seen, it's not going to put Porsche out of business, and will probably end up at the same price as the $53k base Porsche:

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I think what you're really referring to is the fact you will be Seen In A Tesla, and Finally Be Somebody. Trust me, cars are cars.
 
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