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Green Car Reports is not my go-to source for automobile recommendations. Neither is Consumer Reports. However, since the Bolt gets some positive press from them, I guess it's a good thing.
 

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Green Car Reports is not my go-to source for automobile recommendations. Neither is Consumer Reports. However, since the Bolt gets some positive press from them, I guess it's a good thing.
More balanced than Cleantechnica or Electrek, that's for sure. Those guys can't say anything nice about GM products without tossing in some backhanded comment.

Even GCR made a couple of criticisms of the Bolt, despite it winning their award.
 

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Have they chosen a car that you can buy in the other 48 states? :p
It's the best car to buy in 2017... Are you suggesting that it won't be available in 2017? Is the Prius Prime available in all 50 states right now? ;)
 

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GM better make sure they toot their own horn with this car, and not with a bland ad that just briefly shows a giant screen of Chevy's awards with a bunch of surprised people watching cars pop out of the floor. They need to be specific about the Bolt, and make sure people see the Bolt for the leap forward that it is!!
 

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GM better make sure they toot their own horn with this car, and not with a bland ad that just briefly shows a giant screen of Chevy's awards with a bunch of surprised people watching cars pop out of the floor. They need to be specific about the Bolt, and make sure people see the Bolt for the leap forward that it is!!
The Chevy Bolt is much simpler to explain than the Chevy Volt! The GM Marketing team should be able to market the Bolt super easy, and if they make lousy confusing ad, fire the entire marketing staff starting with their executive VP.
 

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I have only seen one "acceptable" Chevy ad (yet GMC and Caddy are usually good) and that was the Malibu Hybrid driving as a ride sharing platform...

With all that said, there's great debate on how you even market an electric car...While many tout the smooth/quiet ride, there are very few who care...So the real benefits the environmental and lower cost for in fuel for MOST drivers...Additionally, like it or not, last stat was 55% lease vs purchase EVs/PHEVs so you really have to appraise the leasing crowd...
 

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The Chevy Bolt is much simpler to explain than the Chevy Volt! The GM Marketing team should be able to market the Bolt super easy, and if they make lousy confusing ad, fire the entire marketing staff starting with their executive VP.
They could try hooking onto the "Trump Train" and "Make America Great Again". That might help to fend off the impending conservative attack on anything "green". I wonder a lot about where we are headed.

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It's the best car to buy in 2017... Are you suggesting that it won't be available in 2017? Is the Prius Prime available in all 50 states right now? ;)
Looks like you have added the "in" part. GCR uses 2017 as the model year, not calendar year.

Exactly. And who knows, maybe the Model 3 will be the best car to buy in 2018.
Considering the first Model 3s to arrive will be in 2017 AS a MY2017, they might need to change their story? :p
I'm really surprised Chevy isn't calling the first Bolt EVs as MY2018. Maybe the MY2017 cars are only for CA and OR, then a month later the MY2018 are for the rest of the country? Silly GM!
 

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As it sits today, Nov 2016, the Volt is still the engineering winner in the all purpose Green sedan category.

Hard to argue with a system that includes a powerful range extender when the country does not have a complete grid for EV travel.
 

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Considering the first Model 3s to arrive will be in 2017 AS a MY2017, they might need to change their story? :p
I'm really surprised Chevy isn't calling the first Bolt EVs as MY2018. Maybe the MY2017 cars are only for CA and OR, then a month later the MY2018 are for the rest of the country? Silly GM!
The MY2018 designation would only be for cars produced after July 2017, so they will have 9 months of production time before anything gets a MY2018 designation. Everything I've read suggests that GM set initial production rates to support 60,000 units per year, so if they actually push 45,000 Bolts, the MY2017 will definitely be available in all 50 states. The way GM is doing it make sense; if the CARB states have little appetite, the rest of the 50 states won't be that interested either. Of course, I expect the European sales to be through the roof.

As for the Model 3, the most optimistic estimates I've read have put the initial production rate at sometime in July of 2017. Which again, means the first Model 3 should have a MY2018 designation.
 

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The Bolt EV will be in all 50 states in EARLY 2017. In fact I believe ordering for all 50 states should open within weeks. GM has clearly stated the roll out of the Bolt EV will be faster than the Volt. GM is likely just waiting till production ramps to go to all 50 states.
 

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The MY2018 designation would only be for cars produced after July 2017, so they will have 9 months of production time before anything gets a MY2018 designation. Everything I've read suggests that GM set initial production rates to support 60,000 units per year, so if they actually push 45,000 Bolts, the MY2017 will definitely be available in all 50 states. The way GM is doing it make sense; if the CARB states have little appetite, the rest of the 50 states won't be that interested either. Of course, I expect the European sales to be through the roof.

As for the Model 3, the most optimistic estimates I've read have put the initial production rate at sometime in July of 2017. Which again, means the first Model 3 should have a MY2018 designation.
A Tesla Model S or X delivered on 12/31/2016 is a MY2016 Tesla. Tesla doesn't go by the made up model year games that other OEMs play.
 

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A Tesla Model S or X delivered on 12/31/2016 is a MY2016 Tesla. Tesla doesn't go by the made up model year games that other OEMs play.
I believe it is based on the company's fiscal (not the calendar) year. Also, Tesla hasn't really produced "new" models of the S or X. They treat it like a software update with versions. GM's vehicles tend to have major overhauls, so the only real way to differentiate between the differences is with a new MY designation.
 

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I believe it is based on the company's fiscal (not the calendar) year. Also, Tesla hasn't really produced "new" models of the S or X. They treat it like a software update with versions. GM's vehicles tend to have major overhauls, so the only real way to differentiate between the differences is with a new MY designation.
Nope. GM's fiscal year is Jan1-Dec31. This is a ploy to get people to rush and buy the HOT new year model car, with all the new whizbang things around October so they're assured big sales numbers between blowing out the "old" models and selling the "new" models. It's a game they've been playing for many years and the consumer is the pawn.

And Tesla has made major changes to their Model S over the years and most of those changes are signified by the submodel.
They just don't signify the changes with a Model Year.
 

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Nope. GM's fiscal year is Jan1-Dec31. This is a ploy to get people to rush and buy the HOT new year model car, with all the new whizbang things around October so they're assured big sales numbers between blowing out the "old" models and selling the "new" models. It's a game they've been playing for many years and the consumer is the pawn.

And Tesla has made major changes to their Model S over the years and most of those changes are signified by the submodel.
They just don't signify the changes with a Model Year.
Cool. Let's hope they have a MY2017 Model 3.
 

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A Tesla Model S or X delivered on 12/31/2016 is a MY2016 Tesla. Tesla doesn't go by the made up model year games that other OEMs play.
Wait so because Tesla does something different from the rest of the industry that automatically makes the rest of the industry wrong?
There are rules around model year registrations (VIN numbers) that all manufactures have to abide by in the US. The model year is designated in the VIN and there are rules as to when this is allowed to be applied.

Typically most major manufactures have a summer shut down. This shut down is opportune for making product changes and typically drives the change in model year. Some times significant change happens earlier or later than this but typically the summer shut down drives it. Note: significant change might be imperceptible to the customer. Running changes and continuous improvement do happen however more significant changes are typically held until the shut downs (unless the change is fairly urgent).
 

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Wait so because Tesla does something different from the rest of the industry that automatically makes the rest of the industry wrong?
There are rules around model year registrations (VIN numbers) that all manufactures have to abide by in the US. The model year is designated in the VIN and there are rules as to when this is allowed to be applied.

Typically most major manufactures have a summer shut down. This shut down is opportune for making product changes and typically drives the change in model year. Some times significant change happens earlier or later than this but typically the summer shut down drives it. Note: significant change might be imperceptible to the customer. Running changes and continuous improvement do happen however more significant changes are typically held until the shut downs (unless the change is fairly urgent).
Tesla DOES have the model year in the VIN#. If you hadn't noticed, they do make some changes throughout the year as technology progresses (battery capacity, dual motors, AP v1.0 v2.0, facelift, etc.)

I'm not saying the rest of the OEMs are wrong, they just play very smart games with their customers. The summer shutdowns coincide with the production ramp up of the new year models and gets them out to the dealerships with a full quarter to spare. This stacks the deck in favor of the OEM because their franchised dealerships can have these "We're making way for the new models and these leftovers have to GO GO GO!!!" sales. These "leftovers" have been sitting on the lots for a while so the consumer feels they're going to get a great deal with end of year bonuses, etc. etc. Meanwhile, you have buyers on the other end of the spectrum that have totally been waiting for this new model to come out, have their deposits down, and want to be the first kid on the block with the new model! It's great marketing.

Tesla don't give a s--- since there's no need to play games with their customers and there is no middle man to have a huge inventory that builds up and gets "old" for a firesale. That's why Tesla does it their way. Is it not fair? I don't care, and neither does Tesla.

I'm betting when Henry Ford started pumping out Tin Lizzys, he didn't play these games.
 
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