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For decades I've been using Meguire's Car Cleaner as a polish, because it was affordable when I was in college, and I found a sale, so I had a half a lifetime supply. Now that I've polished off the last bottle (pun intended) I'm looking for suggestions of what to try next, now that I make a great living and can afford to pay a little more for a bottle of polish. I'm also curious about wax preferences even though I have a ton of wax leftover from when a neighbor moved to Cali and left me all of their garage bottles, cleaners, and paint. I have an old can of johnson's paste wax and a bottle of liquid crystal to go through before I buy another container of wax. But any suggestions are welcome.
 

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Car cleaner is not a polish. Since you are familiar with Meg's products, here's what I would suggest: Ultimate Polish followed by Ultimate Liquid Wax. If you have bad spots with swirls that won't come out with the Ult Polish, step down to Ultimate Compound. Beg, borrow, buy a good DA polisher like the Porter Cable 7424xp to do the work with, along with the correct foam polishing pads (orange/white/blue, depending on coarseness). Remove product after with a fresh microfiber.
 

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Car cleaner is not a polish. Since you are familiar with Meg's products, here's what I would suggest: Ultimate Polish followed by Ultimate Liquid Wax. If you have bad spots with swirls that won't come out with the Ult Polish, step down to Ultimate Compound. Beg, borrow, buy a good DA polisher like the Porter Cable 7424xp to do the work with, along with the correct foam polishing pads (orange/white/blue, depending on coarseness). Remove product after with a fresh microfiber.
I've been using the car cleaner to get nasty bug goo and other crud off the car before waxing. It certainly acts like a polish. I use meguires car cleaner on everything. When we rent DVDs and they skip like crazy, a little megauires on a soft small hand towel does wonders to take our scratches. But after looking at Mister Dave's suggestion (which is expensive) and watching the video on the Wolfgang website, I guess I'm supposed to clay. They don't describe how to clean the bug goo off the front bumper. Ithey seem to only concentrate on the hood and swirls.

I hand polish and wax everything only because I feel like I have better control over the results. I have a big orbital buffer which I bought to clean the airstream and the Suburban, but it's overkill for the tiny volt. Maybe I need to purchase a smaller buffer.
 

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There are a lot of great auto detailing products out there, no question. I've used Liquid Glass LG-100 for many years and I believe its up there with the best of the best. Unfortunately I'm down to my last can and it's no longer available in California.
 

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Auto Glym Radiant Wax Polish is very good stuff. Been using it for many years, available on Amazon (like most anything). They also sell a Liquid Hard Wax that can be used after the wax polish as a sealant, approx. doubles the life of the wax job.
 

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Klasse High Gloss Sealant Glaze. You can search it on Amazon.

I get a lot of little bee poop spots on my car from where I work. If you've never seen them they're little brownish spots about the size of a tic tac mint. They stick like crazy and are a pain to remove.

Well after I used this Klasse polish those little annoying spots just rinse off with a hose; makes washing the car a breeze. Great stuff.
 

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Even better polish/wax

I used Liquid Glass for years, but Finish First is similar but even better. It's easy to order online, and is amazing on my Red Volt and my Red S2000. It's by far the easiest polish/wax to use, and it comes off amazingly easily. It's durable and it shines like nothing else I've seen. And, I've tried them all including Maguires and Zaino. I always come back to Finish First. It's also extremely durable.
 

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If you guys will read up on Zaino ... I think you will be surprised. It is a clear coat polish and sealant and is fully synthetic, so no washing it off, no burning off on hot days like any carnuba product will do.
No yellowing, no streaking, UV protectant and lasts 4-6 months. Really , nothing compares.
 

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+1 on Zaino

It's not the cheapest, but I've used it on all my cars for the past 10 years and have never found anything better. It's not the fastest system, but the results and longevity are the best I've ever seen.
 

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any of these waxes/polishes have issues with clear bras? I have seen a few products in the past that haze or fog on clear bras so any advice?
 

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Just to let you know how dated I am, the last bottle of wax I bought was NuFinish, in fact the bottle got so old and brittle that a cat knocked it off the shelf, created a hole in the lower corner, so I transferred the contents to a Gatorade bottle and sharpies it so I wouldn't get it confused with the meguires car cleaner that was also in a Gatorade bottle. Yes I am the ultimate cheapskate. So I'm definitely up for a new cleaner, polish, wax. These new fully synthetics seem interesting - keep them coming. I wish these companies would sell me a 1 or 2 oz sample pack so I'm not stuck the next decade or so with a bottle of expensive wax. I also wish they made things easier, just reading any of these company's websites can make your head hurt with the pleathora of products for every situation. The other thing I have to worry about is making sure I keep any product that might react adversely with plastidip away from my dip.

Keep them coming, I've got some homework to do reading up on these systems.
 

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Klasse High Gloss Sealant Glaze. You can search it on Amazon.

I get a lot of little bee poop spots on my car from where I work. If you've never seen them they're little brownish spots about the size of a tic tac mint. They stick like crazy and are a pain to remove.

Well after I used this Klasse polish those little annoying spots just rinse off with a hose; makes washing the car a breeze. Great stuff.
I kind of like the fact that Klasse only sells a polish, a glaze, and a plastic/vinyl/leather cleaner instead of dozens of products.... still researching
 

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Polishing by hand is only going to take you so far if you have swirls or scratches. If you want to use a random orbital, your choices really open up, but your wallet must also.

The Porter Cable 7424XP is kind of the gold standard to start with, but it is slow going if you need to to any heavy correction. The Griots Garage 6" buffer is a very similar machine and will give nearly identical results. A step up from there would be any Rupes polisher and the list goes on and on. Be careful with getting these though, things can get out of hand (buying too many!). I have a Flex 3401 for my heavy correcting, a PC7424 with a 4" pad setup for smaller areas and a Rupes iBrid nano for really small areas.

For polishes, Menzerna, Meguiars, Wolfgang, Adam's and others all get the job done, it is just a matter of preference.

For waxes (protection) there are some choices to make. In order of durability you have liquid wax, paste wax, sealants and coatings. All of them will protect the clear coat, but the polishing beforehand is what really makes the car shine. A nice paste carnauba wax is going to do the most to add depth and clarity to the (previously polished) paint, but a sealant will give you 6 to 12 months of protection while a coating will be measured in years.

I recently picked up an Equinox that lives outside, so I put a ceramic coating on it (both paint and trim) and don't need to worry about that one. My Vette only sees paste carnauba, either Adam's Patriot wax or Zymol Atlantique (it is a sample I was given, there is no way on Earth I'd pay over $1,600 for a tub of wax!). Our Volts get sealant for the winter and then paste wax all summer long, although after using the coating, I'm really leaning to coating the Volts also.

There is a lot of jargon with detailing products and companies will call a product something it really isn't. The Zymol Atlantique is called a glaze, but is really a wax. Zaino is called polish, but it doesn't polish, rather it fills and builds up.

The bottom line is that cars are expensive and need cleaned/protected to last. You are the only one that has to be happy with the way the car looks.
 

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Have used Turtle Wax Ice Spray for a few years. At the other end of the spectrum. Super easy to apply and gives a nice shine (after a wash and wax people do ask occasionally if the car is new). Can also use it on the windows. The more you use it the better it gets. Does not, however, shed bee poop.
 

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The info sounds intriguing, but should I trust the option about the best car wax to people who can't seem to choose the most fuel efficient car? I do think I want to try some of the new synthetics. Decisions, decisions...
Hey, even a stopped clock is right twice a day. :p
 
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