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Canadian Winter Bolt thoughts after two weeks of driving and over 2,000kms (1,300mi) with comparisons to a Gen1 Volt.

I love it, any gripes are just for general knowledge, I’m not nitpicking, as I love the car and none of it bothers me. It’s an amazing car, I’m impressed with the thought they put into a lot of the small details. Well done GM!

Range:

- Average Range in the winter: 260-300km (160-186mi) per charge. This is normal driving, some speeding, some stop and go, etc. Not driving it like I drove my Gen1 Volt. I speed more often, use heat, radio, all the gadgets, charge my phones. I’ll hit 450km (280mi) in the summer easily. It was warmer yesterday and I was tracking towards 330km (205mi)
- Heater is very efficient vs. my Gen1 Volt. I don’t feel bad using it. On a full charge the difference of heat vs. no heat is around 30km (19mi) I would say. The onboard display has been showing climate anywhere from 9-15% of battery usage when on.
- I have yet to see any battery conditioning while driving. I’m assuming it comes on below -10c (14f) and from what I’ve seen I think it will only come on IF you have no heat on.
- I’ve been using a tool from (www.fleetcarma.com) to record various data on the car. The Bolt goes through battery conditioning at night on the charger to keep the battery presumably warm. It’s around 1.4-1.5kwh of use to during these cycles and it looks like it does it twice a night or so.

Driving:

- The car is very quiet, as it should be.
- The windshield is large; I really like it. It gives you a feeling of being in a larger car.
- The seats are narrow, but they aren’t uncomfortable. I don’t find them an issue like some have been saying. I have been in them for 3 hours at a time with no fatigue.
- Driving in L and losing traction is interesting.. The regen modulates and compensates similar to ABS before you’re on the brakes. It’s very interesting and seems to be very well thought out.
- The suspension is stiffer than it should be. You feel the bumps more than the G1 Volt. It’s not a sports car, and it shouldn’t pretend to be.
- It might just be my car, but I find it pulls to the left or right quite a bit in certain conditions. I’ve been keeping my eyes on it, and I might take it into the dealer to check things out. Someone mentioned on here they had a similar issue with their Volt that they had reprogramed.
- I’m not a fan of the shifters pattern, but you get use to it. Why change decades of programing in your brain. If someone is borrowing the car, they will have to stare at it for a bit.
- You do hear the pedestrian noise inside the cabin at a stop. If you put the car into park it stops.
- Headlights are good, much improved over the G1 Volt
- Regen is strong and One Pedal Drive is wonderful.. it’s so good. Not hitting the brake in stop and go traffic turns off so much of your brain in traffic and makes it so much less stressful.
- The lane keep, and other safety features all work very well and are great to have!

I haven’t driven the car in ‘D’ yet :p

Some Misc stuff:

- Few glitches in the OS still. Bluetooth disconnects on and off sometimes on my iPhone, not on my Andriod
- The wiper blades froze up once when I was in rain and stopped going. It only lasted a few seconds and then they started going faster, almost as if catching up.
- I had a service park assist come up once, and went away
- It would be nice to be able to access the cameras when in park
- I have a problem with remote starting from the MyChev App. It only seems to work on my Android, my iPhone all the icons are greyed out.


**UPDATE: 02-14-17**
Today after a charge my cars steering wheel controls partially stopped working the whole right side controls + the lights on the left side. Very odd and I hope it will fix itself.

Saw a video for a feature "Rear Seat Reminder" online that reminds you if something is in your back seat. I don't have this in my menu. Not sure why GM Canada would pull this feature.

There is an issue with the car resetting features. When I set the heated seats to turn on when the car remote starts, it always defaults to "off" instead of "on" when I power cycle the car. Also proximity door locking turned itself off, so I walked away from the car and it didn't lock itself.. it took me a few days to notice, so thankfully nothing was even stolen!

I've emailed GM about these three items ^
 

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WOW, first great analytical review. In essence most of what you have discovered applies to the Gen II Volt. Seems a lot of sharing was going on, maybe that's how they got the Bolt out the door so fast and so good.

Oh and love your garage. I owned a 2014 LRG Stingray mine was one of 7 built - LRG with the uber rare ZF1 option (only 142 2014's could be ordered with that option). But I traded it for the 2016 Equinox back in Dec 2015 when we discovered after our first long road trip to visit the grand kids from our home in Illinois to Maryland that we needed a more practical car for long distance travel, retirement and the fact wife and I had difficulty getting in and out of it. I've owned 6 vette's since 1972 and the 2104 Stingray was friggin awesome. Easily got 30 MPG on the highway w/o driving like a granny.

Thanks for the great review, I'm sure many will find it enlightening and useful. I did.
 

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And One More Thing. I can't wait to read the head to head tests between a Bolt and Tesla M3, driven nose to tail over the exact route route/speeds/HVAC settings. Granted the Tesla may have a slight edge in performance (0-60, 1/4 mile) but I bet the Bolt will give the Tesla MS75 a run for all out range (miles) until empty.
 

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...we discovered after our first long road trip to visit the grand kids from our home in Illinois to Maryland that we needed a more practical car for long distance travel, retirement and the fact wife and I had difficulty getting in and out of it.
That's the "style vs. utility" argument in capsule form. There seems to be a huge gulf between people who prefer form over function and can't wrap their heads around why the Bolt doesn't look more like a Tesla, and the people who prize utility first and couldn't care less about how sexy the Tesla looks.

That's why I think GM made the right move with the Bolt. Tesla is aiming at the style market, so by targeting the utility market GM will have it all to itself.
 

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It's all good to know, thanks. I'm wondering if the pulling to one side is not just torque steer in low traction situations - there's certainly no lack of both torque and low traction. For the time being a Bolt can only be a second car for us but I'm watching it closely.
 

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Thank you so much for your great review. Like you, we do have a 1st gen Volt and We should receive our Bolt EV sometime in march. I think it will be such a fun to drive. Make me think that the fun will be, at least, equal with the Spark EV with a much better car than the Spark EV !
 

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Thanks for the review!!

I suspect the real winter range will depend a lot on your driving distance. The first few miles of each trip in freezing weather probably have the heater working at maximum power level. If every trip is only a few miles, your range will drop a fair amount. If each trip is generally long enough to have the heater start to throttle down for a fair amount of it (once the coolant is heated) then the range will begin creeping back up.
 

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JW...

Thanks for the review!

May I ask what was your winter EV range in your Gen1 Volt?
Low end 57km (35mi)
Mid range 62km (38mi)
High 72km (45mi)

I generally hit the 62km (38mi) on average. That's driving without heat, but the heated seat on and with winter tires.
 

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It's all good to know, thanks. I'm wondering if the pulling to one side is not just torque steer in low traction situations - there's certainly no lack of both torque and low traction. For the time being a Bolt can only be a second car for us but I'm watching it closely.
No, it's not torque steer, there is a lot of that when you floor it though! But to be fair, it's cold asphalt here on eco tires. =)

I'm actually thinking after being in it more and more, that it's just the design of the car and how it handles varying road conditions. It's the electric steering and it just doesn't translate as good as some systems do. It's not a big deal, I've gotten use to it pretty much already.
 

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WOW, first great analytical review. In essence most of what you have discovered applies to the Gen II Volt. Seems a lot of sharing was going on, maybe that's how they got the Bolt out the door so fast and so good.

Oh and love your garage. I owned a 2014 LRG Stingray mine was one of 7 built - LRG with the uber rare ZF1 option (only 142 2014's could be ordered with that option). But I traded it for the 2016 Equinox back in Dec 2015 when we discovered after our first long road trip to visit the grand kids from our home in Illinois to Maryland that we needed a more practical car for long distance travel, retirement and the fact wife and I had difficulty getting in and out of it. I've owned 6 vette's since 1972 and the 2104 Stingray was friggin awesome. Easily got 30 MPG on the highway w/o driving like a granny.

Thanks for the great review, I'm sure many will find it enlightening and useful. I did.
Cool! Mines one of the Premiere Editions actually :) They only made 500 of them, it's the Laguna Blue with brown interior. I've never seen, but would like to see an LRG in life not photos. I've heard it needs to be seen to be fully appreciated. Just like the Laguna, it becomes a whole new color when the sun gets on it.
 

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Yes, thanks for the great review. I live just outside the GTA and I was wondering how the new Bolts were fairing in this cold weather. I'm glad to hear your result confirm how I thought the car would perform in the cold. I too have a Gen1 Volt and I see about the same mileage numbers as you did. I still love my Volt but I am looking forward to never using gas again!! I hope to get a Bolt by summer, and now that you have answered most of my concerns I'm more excited than ever!! Cheers!
 

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We need another polar vortex to see what Bolt does in those extreme cold temps. Volt would fall back to engine.
Does both do standby heating, or just strand you?
 

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JW...

Thanks for the review!

May I ask what was your winter EV range in your Gen1 Volt?
Low end 57km (35mi)
Mid range 62km (38mi)
High 72km (45mi)

I generally hit the 62km (38mi) on average. That's driving without heat, but the heated seat on and with winter tires.
Thanks!

Yeah, using heat in the Gen1 Volt with it's tiny battery is killer.
I've also gotten 38mi EV range out of my 2014 Volt (with winter tires) in the NY winter... without heat... but my 28mi commute is too far to go without heat. My normal winter EV range with heat is 30-32mi.
Throw in a bad snowstorm with headwinds... and it's down to the mid 20's mi range.


I was trying to see if we had similar driving styles with the Volt so I could extrapolate what to expect with the Bolt, but driving the Volt without heat in the winter throws off the comparison.

Ali-in-all I don't expect to get less than 150mi EV range from the Bolt during the winter... with the heat on :D
 

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Thanks!

Yeah, using heat in the Gen1 Volt with it's tiny battery is killer.
I've also gotten 38mi EV range out of my 2014 Volt (with winter tires) in the NY winter... without heat... but my 28mi commute is too far to go without heat. My normal winter EV range with heat is 30-32mi.
Throw in a bad snowstorm with headwinds... and it's down to the mid 20's mi range.


I was trying to see if we had similar driving styles with the Volt so I could extrapolate what to expect with the Bolt, but driving the Volt without heat in the winter throws off the comparison.

Ali-in-all I don't expect to get less than 150mi EV range from the Bolt during the winter... with the heat on :D
Your cold weather results in Gen 1 Volt are far closer to what I experience.
 
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