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I notice when I go down hill, if it is steep enough I can generate more power than I use and still maintain my speed.
But when I try to use the regen pedal at the same time as I step on accelarator I cant do it.
Is there a way to modify the car so you can get regen power at the same time you are accelerating? Kind of like a perpetual motion machine!
 

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I notice when I go down hill, if it is steep enough I can generate more power than I use and still maintain my speed.
But when I try to use the regen pedal at the same time as I step on accelarator I cant do it.
Is there a way to modify the car so you can get regen power at the same time you are accelerating? Kind of like a perpetual motion machine!
No, there is not.

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Sorry, no magic is possible.

There is no "regen pedal", it is a BRAKE pedal and it is not wise to engage the brake and accelerator at the same time.......regardless of exactly how the brakes work......so they designed it so that you can't do that.

Have you also noticed that you can't rev the engine when it's in PARK ??
 

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Peddle or paddle? The steering wheel paddle is over ridden by a torque request from the gas pedal-always. I don't really know how the brake pedal proper and the accel work on this car other than the friction brake comes into play if you push it hard enough.
 

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I notice when I go down hill, if it is steep enough I can generate more power than I use and still maintain my speed.
But when I try to use the regen pedal at the same time as I step on accelarator I cant do it.
Is there a way to modify the car so you can get regen power at the same time you are accelerating? Kind of like a perpetual motion machine!

No. Until some bizarre yet unknown physics principle is discovered, there aren't any working perpetual motion machines.

What you are proposing would increase energy use. Apparently the car has a superior understanding of physics. ;)
 

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I notice when I go down hill, if it is steep enough I can generate more power than I use and still maintain my speed.
But when I try to use the regen pedal at the same time as I step on accelarator I cant do it.
Is there a way to modify the car so you can get regen power at the same time you are accelerating? Kind of like a perpetual motion machine!
No modification to the car is necessary. Just always drive it down hills. You will never have to plug it in. :D
 

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Regen is created by the wheels powering the drive motor. The power flow through the motor can only go one way at a time.
 

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Acceleration = positive current, regeneration = negative current, through the same circuits. You'd end up with zero net current, which you could just as easily accomplish by shutting the car off.
 

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I notice when I go down hill, if it is steep enough I can generate more power than I use and still maintain my speed.
But when I try to use the regen pedal at the same time as I step on accelarator I cant do it.
Is there a way to modify the car so you can get regen power at the same time you are accelerating? Kind of like a perpetual motion machine!
You're not generating power. What you're doing is capturing and converting the energy of a large mass rolling down hill into electrical energy being stored in the battery. The only way to keep "recovering" or generating MORE power then you put into it would be to locate your car on a hill without using any energy from the battery or engine. Push it up there by hand?
 

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You just need to figure out a way to go to work and back, downhill, both ways.

Trying to do perpetual motion is a dead end. Just like this guy is crazy trying to power his car with wind.

https://youtu.be/bkcn8ZkvKKc
 

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Is this Snark?
 

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Trying to do perpetual motion is a dead end.
Technically, it isn't. If the OP's car were in space, where there is no resistance, once it got moving it would move perpetually until it bumped into something (and even then it and/or the object would continue to move).

What's a dead end is trying to violate the laws of thermodynamics.
 

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Unfortunately, there is friction. Pretend you start with a fully charged battery, and are at a stop. You accelerate up to 60 miles per hour draining some of your battery charge. The problem is there is energy lost as friction between the tires and the road, in the drivetrain of the car, between the air and the car, between the electrons and the copper which heat the cable, etc. Accelerating from 0 to 60 miles per hour results and maybe 20% of the energy being lost as heat. When you slow down and use regenerative braking and recapture energy, it doesn't capture all of it. The entire system is Maybe 50 or 60% efficient, so you can never get back all the energy, meaning perpetual motion would be impossible.

Your only option is to take energy as an input somewhere, gas, battery charge, fuel cell, nuclear, etc. Right now most energy on the earth originated from our local fusion power source, the sun. Oil is from uncountable nuber of plankton and other organics that got their energy from the sun, die and sink to the bottom of the ocean and are slowly converted over a long time span. The sun constantly recharges the earth, so even the earth is not a perpetual motion machine. Even the sun is going to burn out eventually. Good thing for us we have a few billion years.
 

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Another Ali-G type thread from this OP, and another slew of people falling for it.

I'm tempted to start one of my own, based on a revelation that came to me yesterday:

'My car has a backup camera but no rear window wiper. I get around this on rainy days by reversing everywhere. I use the camera to see where I am going and can easily clean the rear (now front) window with the wipers. The car seems to go just as fast in R mode as in L mode. Only problem is trying to read traffic lights.'
 

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Another Ali-G type thread from this OP, and another slew of people falling for it.
Sarcasm doesn't work on the Internet. Although I assume it might be sarcastic, I answer truthfully. It isn't a matter of "falling for it", but rather if someone doesn't know any better comes and reads this, it would be nice if there were some correct answers.

One of the very unfortunate side effects of smart phones and blogs and Hollywood as news is that people are swayed by false arguments. It shows in fake stories like moon landing was faked, toxic jet contrails, vaccines cause autism, the earth is flat, climate change is a hoax, GMO food is universally worse than non GMO, etc. People can have some really crazy ideas that gain a lot of support even after scientific consensus and research says otherwise. I am all for challenging ideas, but to put out false information is something else entirely. Some of these get a lot more support than others, mainly if people want to believe something.
 

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Sarcasm doesn't work on the Internet....
Yes, I agree with you completely, in the wider world, although if you are referring to the OP I wouldn't call this sarcasm. Perhaps a passive-agressive form of trolling. In any case it does seem to be quite successful.

If you are referring to me, well, guilty as charged.

In my defence I might add my rainy-day driving solution eliminates those notorious Volt blind spots.
 

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Just put it in magical-unicorn-horn-dust 'hold' mode. You'll never run out of EV range.
 

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Technically, it isn't. If the OP's car were in space, where there is no resistance, once it got moving it would move perpetually until it bumped into something (and even then it and/or the object would continue to move).
There is always some resistance from solar wind and cosmic dust, plus acceleration due to gravity from distant bodies, so it wouldn't move perpetually.
 
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