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Here is a strange one, but seriously happened.

I was out of town (the only driver of the Bolt) I get a call saying there was a crash in the garage.

BOTH keys were out of the vehicle, car self locked and shut down in park from the previous night.

Wife heard a crash, goes to the garage and sees that the car backed up and ran into a work bench pushing in a wall.

granted, hard to believe, but both keys out of the car, she was in the house (no other drivers here), I was 40 miles away, and somehow the car moved????

Insurance called, dealership notified, GM messaged.

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Curious to see how this plays out!
Just glad no one was hurt.
Did the car take much damage?
 

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First question that comes to mind is was the car in reverse gear? Seems like a lot has to go wrong for this to happen. The car has to start, shift into reverse, and release the parking brake...

Please report back when there's more information available.
 

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Picture available?
 

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"I was out of town"

What does someone do when they do something they don't want to own up to it? You have your answer.

Occam's razor apply s here, interesting your not home and the car is ...
 

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We can wait for further information but it seems odd coming from the same person who showed frustration with purchase of their new Bolt since it didn't have everything wanted/desired upon purchase.

Hope everything works out and glad no one was hurt. OP, you don't happen to own a Tesla also, do you?
 

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Occam's razor can only be applied to explain data. Are you saying that the car did not move itself - do you have evidence to back that up?
Cars do not move themselves, and yes cars have data recorders, as the OP will find out shortly. Hope he knows false insurance claims are a felony.
 

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Cars do not move themselves, and yes cars have data recorders, as the OP will find out shortly. Hope he knows false insurance claims are a felony.
That is something I haven't heard much about with all the information coming out about the Bolt. This may be our first real-world application to find out how much info Chevy is keepng. Both for our and their protection. We hear about Tesla's logs all the time when incidents happen.

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Interesting. Does the OP (socalif) have kids?

I know GM was working on automation with the Bolt.

If it did this, talk about a dangerous glitch.
 

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Not to say it didn't happen, but anyone claiming that a car -- any car -- started on its own, put itself into gear, and then accelerated into a garage has, as Ricky Ricardo would say, a lot "of splainin" to do. Quite a step beyond the run of the mill "sudden acceleration" claims. :D
 

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No kids, and yes out of town, 37 miles away with proof, frustration yes, but car still was driving good to date, and actually fun to drive.

Car was in park, off overnight, backed into the garage.

I know it sounds suspicious, but I totally welcome someone from GM to check Diagnostics, as it was in P last night, and when my wife called after the incident, I had her go in the car to make sure it was. She powered it on and it says it was parked.

I left at 7 a.m., get a call from the wife frantic at 1135 a.m., I got home from 30+ miles away 6 hours later, and called the insurance company. Minimal damage to the car, mid damage to the cabinats and garage.

Isnt there something that can be in the computer like a black box or something that can be read, like they do in accidents, or is this TV stuff?

Pictures, yes, adjuster to come out Tuesday.

Funny how some comments about owning up, HILARIOUS! Yes, I accepted responsibility for not being more aware, but regardless, no one was hurt luckily.
 

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No kids, and yes out of town, 37 miles away with proof, frustration yes, but car still was driving good to date, and actually fun to drive.

Car was in park, off overnight, backed into the garage.

I know it sounds suspicious, but I totally welcome someone from GM to check Diagnostics, as it was in P last night, and when my wife called after the incident, I had her go in the car to make sure it was. She powered it on and it says it was parked.

I left at 7 a.m., get a call from the wife frantic at 1135 a.m., I got home from 30+ miles away 6 hours later, and called the insurance company. Minimal damage to the car, mid damage to the cabinats and garage.

Isnt there something that can be in the computer like a black box or something that can be read, like they do in accidents, or is this TV stuff?

Pictures, yes, adjuster to come out Tuesday.

Funny how some comments about owning up, HILARIOUS! Yes, I accepted responsibility for not being more aware, but regardless, no one was hurt luckily.

Your neighbors got kids!? But seriously the whole premise of any vehicle being able to move itself while in park is rather sketchy...

Bolt EV Propulsion System


Gear position is selected using the Electronic Precision Shift (EPS) system, which is also used on the new Buick LaCrosse and Cadillac XT5. The shift-by-wire systems sends electronic signals to the drive unit to select the drive mode. The selected gear position illuminates in red on top of the shift lever. After shifting, the lever returns to the center position.

TIP: The transmission will not stay in Neutral for an extended period. It will automatically shift into Park.


Since the Bolt's EPS is shared among other vehicles according to the above linked, this issue could potentially affect other GM models?:confused:
 

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Neighbors have kids a couple doors down, but since both garage doors were closed, there is no way for them to get in.

Seems extremely sketchy/suspicious, I agree, that is why I think there is something programmed wrong or hacked, or IDK.

I have the car to self/auto lock also when there is no key in the car, so when my wife called me to report a problem, she couldnt get into the car, I had to tell her where the keys were.

She got the keys, unlocked the door, pressed the power, and it said it was in Park.
 

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Bolt Standard received on 12/31/16 - 1st review


There does seem to be an issue when going from forward/reverse, to park, if the car isnt totally stopped for over a second, if you press Park, then let off on the brake pedal to quickly, the car jumps and makes a clunk noise, or has a few times for me already.
Noticed this previous post over at your review thread. Makes me wonder if this EPS system on your Bolt is working properly? I would think it should NOT be possible for your Bolt to 'jump' following being put into park...
 

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Not to say it didn't happen, but anyone claiming that a car -- any car -- started on its own, put itself into gear, and then accelerated into a garage has, as Ricky Ricardo would say, a lot "of splainin" to do. Quite a step beyond the run of the mill "sudden acceleration" claims. :D
Teslas do this with a phone app to get out of the garage. Now a days it's not unheard of.
 

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Let's not be pointing fingers at the OP just yet, folks. Instead, what exactly has to happen for this to result? As noted above, a LOT needs to be over-ridden it would seem.
 

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I hope this gets figured out. There is a "black box" in most newer vehicles, so there is some information that can be gleaned from the Bolts computers. I have no idea how much data is stored and for how long though. (It varies across manufacturers, models, and model years). If at least one airbag goes off typically more information is stored about the "crash" than if one doesn't go off.
 

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only report almost like this was parking on snow with ice under it

good idea to set the don't backup lock for a time.
 
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