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Bolt EV had its best month ever with 2,505 retail deliveries and 2,632 total deliveries.
Best month ever for Chevrolet electrified vehicles (Bolt EV and Volt), with 3,929 retail deliveries.
http://www.gm.com/investors/sales/us-sales-production.html

Volt sales are still low, 1453.

Note difference between retail and total deliveries on those texts. Total plug in vehicle sales were 4085. Most of the fleet vehicle sales seem to be the Bolt EV (again, likely Maven/Lyft and maybe Uber).
 

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Seems I heard rumblings that Bolt sales are disappointing. I still haven't seen one on the road in Salt Lake. I saw several at a dealer, so they have been available for some time. I think gas prices are hurting EV sales. Nobody knows if the price of gas will ever go up again and when.
 

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I think gas prices are hurting Prius sales. I don't think they are hurting EV sales much at all.
 

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GM has been beating earnings for more than 10 quarters, maybe 12 or more now, and yet their stock remained flat forever. I have tried to tell people that GM is a leader in Autonomous driving, is performing very well, and they just don't see it as they are stuck on GM from 2000. I am no GM fan boy (never even looked at one previous to the Volt), but their new cars are great, they are forward thinking, and they are performing well. The stock was heavily under valued and people are starting to realize that.
 

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It is frustrating that we're starving for Bolts up here. There's a six-month waiting list, while in the US there are 4500 in stock.

That being said, it's not just GM that's a problem. Many of the affordable options are hard to come by in Canada right now.
 

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http://www.gm.com/investors/sales/us-sales-production.html

Volt sales are still low, 1453.

Note difference between retail and total deliveries on those texts. Total plug in vehicle sales were 4085. Most of the fleet vehicle sales seem to be the Bolt EV (again, likely Maven/Lyft and maybe Uber).
The Volt, both gen1 and gen2, are great cars. In some ways, I'm sad to see it lose its halo status to the Bolt :) Personally, I'm thrilled to own and drive a gen2 Premier.
 

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While it is nice to see the Bolt sales numbers reach a new high, these numbers are still not revolutionary. These numbers are in the same range as Volt sales numbers in the early years.

We thought the Volt would start the plugin revolution but sales remained pretty lackluster. Now with the Bolt we are seeing basically the same thing. Many of us had hoped that once GM had an EV with a range of over 200 miles, that this would be the tipping point when the EV revolution would begin.

We can look on the bright side and look at 4000 total plugins in one month, but still these are not revolutionary numbers, not when Chevy sells the same number of trucks in one weekend.
 

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We can look on the bright side and look at 4000 total plugins in one month, but still these are not revolutionary numbers, not when Chevy sells the same number of trucks in one weekend.
Perhaps we should look at the whole highlight reel:

September Retail Highlights (vs. September 2016 unless noted)

Chevrolet

Best September since 2004.
Silverado was up 14 percent.
Equinox and Traverse, Chevrolet’s newest crossovers, were up 69 percent and 104 percent, respectively, the best September ever for Equinox and the best month ever for Traverse.
Bolt EV had its best month ever with 2,505 retail deliveries and 2,632 total deliveries.
Best month ever for Chevrolet electrified vehicles (Bolt EV and Volt), with 3,929 retail deliveries.
Trax was up 8 percent for its best September ever.
Impala was up 7 percent.

Buick

Enclave, Encore and Envision were up 41 percent, 12 percent and 44 percent, respectively.
Encore had its best month ever.
Highest ever SUV/crossover mix at 87 percent.
LaCrosse ATP up 10 percent year to date.
Buick maintained its retail focus with more than a 50 percent reduction in fleet deliveries year to date.

GMC

Terrain was up 66 percent for its best September ever.
Overall Denali penetration was 33 percent, the highest monthly rate ever.
Denali penetration on Sierra reached 38 percent in September.
Year-to-date ATP is highest in GMC history at $43,210.
Sierra had the highest ATP in its segment for 12th straight month.

Cadillac

XT5 was up 36 percent.
Combined XT5 and SRX deliveries were up 12 percent year to date.
Year-to-date ATP was up $260 to $53,748, higher than many German luxury brands
Highest surge was Equinox and Traverse AFAICT, up 69 percent and 104 percent, respectively. No mention of CT6 PHV, or the apparent fact that they still haven't sold off the entire ELR inventory (according to insideevs data). Obviously that wouldn't be a highlight.
 

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I am no GM fan boy (never even looked at one previous to the Volt), but their new cars are great, they are forward thinking, and they are performing well.
Same here. Until the Volt all my cars came from Europe. Now I have two GM cars (Volt and Bolt) and drive electric for 99.9% of my travel. Well, 100%, but there will come that day when I need the Volt's ICE for an extra long trip...
 

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Perhaps we should look at the whole highlight reel:

Highest surge was Equinox and Traverse AFAICT, up 69 percent and 104 percent, respectively. No mention of CT6 PHV, or the apparent fact that they still haven't sold off the entire ELR inventory (according to insideevs data). Obviously that wouldn't be a highlight.
This is why we need the BEV or EREV SUV. Which I guess is coming in the next 18 months. Hopefully sooner rather than later.

Pricing and image are problem on the Cadillac EREV/PHEVs. If you are going expensive, you need to go best in some way. Best acceleration, best range, best, best, best... The ELR was slow (relatively), expensive, and didn't really have anything to set it apart for the price they were asking (emphasizing that last part). The CT6 PHV is really no better in that regard so not sure what the Cadillac executive that approved that car was thinking. I think it is even lacking Super Cruise on the PHEV model?
 

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This is why we need the BEV or EREV SUV. Which I guess is coming in the next 18 months. Hopefully sooner rather than later.
With a battery weight (or some other factor) improvement I hope. If it's Voltec I'm in, providing they can design something that doesn't look like a stupid cartoon character. I really like that on-board generator. FNR-X a little watered down might work.
 
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