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What's wrong with cleantechnica.com and electrek.co?
And, why would they link your stuff?
Well...they suck. Cleantechnica not quite as much as the Tesla propaganda site Electrek though. Both sites have shown an anti-GM slant in their "articles"...but especially Electrek.

And they've linked my posts on here in the past without permission, so I don't want them taking my material to generate hits (or post hit pieces against GM).
 

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Yup it's an issue with all EV's right now. TeslaBjorn has a new video where he goes out and drives his Model X hard for several minutes to warm up the battery and it appears to work well. Maybe that would work on the Bolt EV?

 

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Well...they suck... anti-GM slant.
And they've linked my posts ... in the past without permission

OK, got it!
 

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Brutally honest. Regardless of manufacture FAST and CONVINIENT charging is still the long pole in the tent for EV and long distance travel.

I wouldn't have subjected my wife/family to that scenario or conditions based on the lack of FAST and CONVINIENT charging stations.
 

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In case anyone wants the point in a nutshell: charging rate is slower than expected in cold weather.
But why? The battery is always in a 'happy' temp range if it has been plugged in or in use in recent history, correct?

Yup it's an issue with all EV's right now. ...drives his Model X hard for several minutes to warm up the battery and it appears to work well. Maybe that would work on the Bolt EV?....
It's winter. The streets and tires are cold and slide easier. The roads could be wet and/or icy, salty, sandy.
How do you go about your business of taking the time to flog a Bolt before plugging in at a DCFC.
The battery should be warm from the drive to get there.

What does GM have to say about this issue?
 

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Brutally honest. Regardless of manufacture FAST and CONVINIENT charging is still the long pole in the tent for EV and long distance travel.

I wouldn't have subjected my wife/family to that scenario or conditions based on the lack of FAST and CONVINIENT charging stations.
I really hope that taking an hour plus to charge as being fast, because if you are charging a TESLA to full even at a super charger that is what you face. A hour is not quick
 

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I really hope that taking an hour plus to charge as being fast, because if you are charging a TESLA to full even at a super charger that is what you face. A hour is not quick
Correct. We still have a ways to go. That's why we own a 2017 Volt and 2017 GMC Acadia. The Volt as my DD averaging over 97% all electric and the 2017 Acadia as out families long distance truck'ster averaging over 29 MPG on LONG trips with all the safety toys.
 

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The Volt sure is nice for road trips. Gets incredibly hot in the cabin if I pop it into mountain mode for a bit. Stop for a quick fill up of gas every 300 miles or so

Your post highlights the importance of GM entering into recharging network if they want electric cars to succeed.
 

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At this point BEVs are really not ready for long trips, though I wouldn't characterize this one as a long trip. More like a short road trip. With so few chargers and so many possible problems, even if it's theoretically possible it's going to be a pain at the least. Hope your wife is no longer cranky from indulging your electric interests!

Other than the charging, how did the Bolt EV do in the snow?
 

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....Your post highlights the importance of GM entering into recharging network if they want electric cars to succeed.
Why should an EV manufacturer be involved in a charging network? And there are so many EV brands.
Tesla can't seem to make a dime off it.

What GM needs to do it make their current 'long range BEV' charge at the advertised rate when at a 50kW DCFC. :mad:
 

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Musk says he wants to change the market for the greater good. If so, Tesla should install DCFC stations and compete with gas station/convenience stores with a cross country network of EV (any EV) charging stations. Imagine Ford only gas stations, it's a dumb idea. Brand specific charging does not promote EV's.
 

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18-24kw DC fast charging on a cold battery should be 60-80 miles per hour of charging, is that right?

What's the slowest supercharger rate that a cold battery Tesla S75 will charge at? The S75 has the smallest Tesla battery and a range only a bit more than the Bolt.
 

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Musk says he wants to change the market for the greater good. If so, Tesla should install DCFC stations and compete with gas station/convenience stores with a cross country network of EV (any EV) charging stations. Imagine Ford only gas stations, it's a dumb idea. Brand specific charging does not promote EV's.
Good point, but didn't he say any other brand can use the supercharger network (if they contribute to building it)? Also, Tesla has installed a lot of destination chargers that include open J1772 connections. So Elon has not thrown the doors wide open on the network, but this does seem reasonable, given the economic reality of building the network.
 

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I really hope that taking an hour plus to charge as being fast, because if you are charging a TESLA to full even at a super charger that is what you face. A hour is not quick
But with a Tesla he wouldn't have been charging to full, which generally no one does unless they really have to. There's a six stall Supercharger in Harrisburg, much closer to his destination. You'll note that even as things were neither of his sessions was charging to full, and that the Bolt's much more draconian ramp caused the slower session initially. The typical Supercharging session is 25-30 minutes.
 

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Musk says he wants to change the market for the greater good. If so, Tesla should install DCFC stations and compete with gas station/convenience stores with a cross country network of EV (any EV) charging stations. Imagine Ford only gas stations, it's a dumb idea. Brand specific charging does not promote EV's.
So Tesla should spend their own money to build charging stations for standards they don't support to allow only other company's cars to charge on Tesla's electricity to promote industry growth?

They developed a better standard and funded a network when no one was willing to, and invited others to join their standards and network. I don't see any logic to the idea that they should build incompatible chargers using their money. The way they donate J1772 EVSEs throughout their destination charging network is already pure charity...
 

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I'm surprised the mods let you post about your off-site (and possibly competing) blog. At least give a two-sentence synopsis.
 

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I'm surprised the mods let you post about your off-site (and possibly competing) blog. At least give a two-sentence synopsis.
That's pretty much what I did.

And WOP (when he was here) said he was fine with my blog posts. Not like I'm selling knockoff iPhones or something.

I mean I could post more anti-Tesla articles instead of Bolt blog posts if you want. Raise your hand if that's what you want! :D
 
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