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Noel Park : #59 LauraM:Alas, too true. I’ve told the story here before about buying a Silverado, and not realizing until I got it home that it was assembled in Mexico. Well fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me. You can bet that I study the U.S. content sticker like a hawk now.Your point about the engineering and administrative jobs is still prefectly valid, however. Plus keeping the profits, if any, at home is a huge plus as well. One just has to be an informed consumer. That’s why I’m so relieved that the Volt, Cruze, and evidently the Spark, are going to be built in the USA.

I agree about the engineering and management jobs. But there are a lot of people out there who just look at the percentage and go with the Hondas and the Toyotas.

My point is that GM and Ford shouldn't take their "American" status for granted. They need to prove to the American people that they're better for America than the foreign manufacturers. And that buying a car from one of them helps the American economy more than buying a domestically assembled Toyota Camry with 80% American content. Especially if they're getting our tax dollars. (And even Ford is with the DOE loan.)

I'm also happy that the Volt and the Cruze will be built here. It's a great start. But they also need to increase their domestic content.
 
Hal : What is up with these ads that take up the whole screen when you mouse over them!?!Please Lyle, draw the line somewhere.

What ads? I use Mozilla Firefox with a plugin called "Adblock Plus".

I appreciate that ads support many of the sites I view, but I've been running some form of ad-blocker since around the year 2000 -- so someone peed in that pool long ago. And it looked like an angry fruit salad. Whenever I set up a regular browser on a new computer, I'm kind-of shocked at what the Web looks like to most people....
 
It's a free country, you have the right to spend your money as you wish as long as it's legal.

Baby Lutz : Assume 45 mpg, hmm, and it is a vehicle designed for local driving, I have to say the price makes it uncompetitive with $22K hybrid Prius. I will buy a Prius next year!
 
Noel Park : Well I just respectfully disagree. The litany of failed products developed under Lutz is much too long to repeat here. Did you happen to see the story on allcarselectric.com yesterday about the Pontiac Solstice/SaturnSky plant being sold to Fisker? With a taxpayer loan, BTW.To have someone who is what, 76 years old(?), making product decisions for stuff to sell to present generations is self destructive. Go on down to the Chevy dealer and look at the present product line. See anything you want to buy? Then drive around LA and check out the Priuses, Fits, and Kia Souls (LOL) selling like hot cakes.There is a reason why GM went bankrupt, and Bob Lutz gets plenty of credit for it. They NEED to have him step aside and bring in some 20-30 somethings to develop products for future generations.

As a member of the younger generation (I'm 31), I can tell you that there are lot of guys drooling over the Camaro. And the CTS. And, personally, I've never been into cars period, but I want a Volt. So, he must be doing something right.

Steve Jobs is 54, and everyone I know either has or wants an iphone. Shigeru Miyamoto designed the wii fit, and I absolutely love mine. And so do some of my younger friends. You don't need to be a 20 something to know what will appeal to the 20 somethings.

Alan Mulally is 64, and I don't think anyone could argue he hasn't been an asset to Ford. Or that he shoudln't stick around at least until the turnaround he started is complete. He's one of the best CEOs in the business. Personally, I hope he sticks around until he's 85.
 
Bob :
When gas prices are high you won’t find a Prius for that price. The dealers stick on all the diddley-boom dealer installed options they can get away with to inflate the price.

And when there are gas shortages and gas lines, the Volt's 40-mile all-electric range will be priceless. (Not to mention its futuristic Electromotive Metallic hue!!)

The credit and job crises have worsened the global oil situation while at the same time taking attention away from it. Depletion of existing fields plus abandoned investment plans in new wells are bringing a new crisis to our doorstep about the time the Volt is due to hit the dealerships in significant numbers.

[My apologies: Since this car has a plug, I thought I'd include a plug for my hue-name entry.]
 
#98 Khadgars & #102 LauraM:

Well everyone is entitled to his or her opinion, and it's nice to know that Mr. Luz has some fans. I'm just not one of them. I sincerely hope that he can prove me wrong.
 
statik :
Close…but it is missing something.

Somethings missing....yeah the PINK TIE!

I don't know, I can't post a picture. It must have to be accessible to Lyle. Can't just post a pic that I have store on my computer. -1 for me.
 
David K (CT) : Somethings missing….yeah the PINK TIE!I don’t know, I can’t post a picture. It must have to be accessible to Lyle. Can’t just post a pic that I have store on my computer.

Yeah, the site isn't hosting the shots...has to be hosted already. Head over to a 'photoshack' and upload it, then hotlink it here.

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Khadgars :

GM went bankrupt because it’s production cost were too high, not because it couldn’t sell a vehicle.

GM went bankrupt because stockholders became addicted to high-profit margin SUV's, and neglected their R&D on next generation cars. Classic short term thinking. I remember GM dismissing the Prius with "the numbers don't add up. Americans won't go for it."

They are scrambling to correct that situation now.

The main 'compensation' difference between American auto factory workers and ones in Japan is healthcare: the American worker has to fight for company provided healthcare, and the Japanese worker has national healthcare, wherever he works.

GM bankruptcy has not fixed that huge disadvantage; all American companies, and American workers, are burdened by this disadvantage vs. Japan, Germany, Italy, France, UK, etc...

Toyota autoworker pay in 2007:
Average monthly base pay 350,580 yen.
Average annual bonus: 2.58 million yen
In dollars, that is:
$35,970 annual pay, $22,051 annual bonus =
Average total compensation of $58,021
http://www.japaneconomynews.com/2007/03/15/japans-auto-workers-get-pay-raises-a-bit-and-better-bonuses/

That's $219 less, per year, than the average UAW worker makes. Given the exchange rate (the dollar collapsing), since 2007 the Japanese probably earn MORE than Americans now.

The difference is National Healthcare.
The lack of it is killing American companies - the game has changed a lot since WWII.

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Rashiid Amul : Lyle, how are you going to keep out porn or other inappropriate stuff?
I just pasted the Chevy Volt as a test.
It could have been a porn picture.
The way some idiots are around here (Comcastic comes to mind)
porn or something else is very possible.

Well now you've gone and done it. You gave away the secret. The Trolls will have a field day with that feature until it gets pulled down. Let's see how long it lasts.
 
CaptJackSparrow : So I can post pictures now?!?!?!?YEEEEEHAWWW!!!!

Um, maybe ... (second attempt):




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http://i33.tinypic.com/sl6uio.jpg

Download and take this to Gravatar.com and make yourself a gravatar (or GIS for Captain Jack Sparrow to pick your own).
 
Noel Park : #112 statik:Solstice. I rest my case.


Noel Park : #98 Khadgars & #102 LauraM:Well everyone is entitled to his or her opinion, and it’s nice to know that Mr. Luz has some fans. I’m just not one of them. I sincerely hope that he can prove me wrong.

I'm not actually a Bob Lutz "fan." I was definately put off by his "I'm going to retire at the worst possible time because the job won't be fun anymore if the government's in charge" comment. But I do think that, on average, he improved GM's product line-up. Was he the best man for the job? I don't know. But Rattner kept him, and I think that says something.

My main point is that age has nothing to do with it either way. I'm hoping to live to be 120. And I don't want to have to retire at 65 because some people think 20 somethings are automatically better. Also, there are some people at my work place who are past the convention retirement age. And I've learned a lot from them, so I'm happy that they weren't forced to retire. For my own sake as well as theirs.
 
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