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Allegations include regular use of the "N" word by superiors to black workers. After one such employee complained to HR and Musk, he was fired for "not having a positive attitude". Gee, when you are are being called the "N" word daily, how could you NOT have a positive attitude? :rolleyes: That former employee is now part of a lawsuit filed against Tesla.

Earlier in the year, Musk sent an email to employees stating, “Part of not being a huge jerk is considering how someone might feel who is part of [a] historically less represented group,” Musk wrote in the email. “Sometimes these things happen unintentionally, in which case you should apologize. In fairness, if someone is a jerk to you, but sincerely apologizes, it is important to be thick-skinned and accept that apology.”

So if someone calls you the "N" word or other racially derogatory terms, then "sincerely" apologizes, it is OK. It's OK to be racist as long as the perpetrator apologizes afterwards! WTF are you smoking, Elon?? Completely disgusting behavior. As I've said before, Tesla is rotten, and it starts with their CEO.

Supervisor: Hey, work faster N***er! We have deadlines!
Employee: WTF did you just say??
Supervisor: You heard me. You value your job, right? Better work faster then! Oh, and sorry about the n***er comment. Elon said it's OK to call you guys that, as long as we apologize afterwards. So, here's your "sorry".

In Elon Musk's world, the above scenario would be perfectly acceptable. :rolleyes:

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...r-racist-behavior-black-workers-claim-in-suit
 

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If true, hopefully the NAACP and ACLU will get involved.
 

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I call BS. No large work place is like this let alone in California. It just cannot happen, someone would capture it on phone or hordes would have come out of wood work. All we are seeing is typical Union tactics. This is how they make everyone think they have to be there as well show how anti employee and anti union the place is.

the unions cannot afford an automotive industry in california that is not union
 

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That seems extremely hard to believe. No workplace or worker would tolerate it.


I'm more inclined to believe the worker is mad about being fired and is now making things up to slander Tesla and hopefully win a case against them.
 

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That seems extremely hard to believe. No workplace or worker would tolerate it.


I'm more inclined to believe the worker is mad about being fired and is now making things up to slander Tesla and hopefully win a case against them.
I call BS. No large work place is like this let alone in California. It just cannot happen, someone would capture it on phone or hordes would have come out of wood work. All we are seeing is typical Union tactics. This is how they make everyone think they have to be there as well show how anti employee and anti union the place is.

the unions cannot afford an automotive industry in california that is not union
They did...

One video can be found here...

https://www.tmz.com/2017/09/18/tesla-sued-n-word-ex-employee-harassment-discrimination/


UPDATE
12:30 PM PT -- Tesla says they've investigated DeWitt Lambert's complaint, and the other employees involved told a much different version of events leading up to the recording showing them using the n-word. In fact, Tesla says they now have personal instant messages where Lambert not only uses the n-word ... but says he was seeking revenge on his co-workers.
Bottom line: Tesla says they've suspended Lambert, with pay, while they reopen the investigation.


This is still an ongoing case...
 

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Exactly, and that is why we have suits, which can be proved right or wrong. What does this have to do with the Volt?
Nothing...which is why it appeared on the Tesla forum portion of this site...:rolleyes:
 

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Hateful? "Tesla is rotten, and it starts with their CEO." You be the judge.
Really? Really?

You probably wouldn't last 1 week at the Fremont factory before you #ragequit.

FYI, I searched the forum for the word "hate", and came back with over 100 results. If you're gonna report my post, you better report those hundred other posts too, if that's the game you're playing.
 

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More details from this article: https://www.nbcnews.com/business/autos/tesla-hit-lawsuit-called-hotbed-racist-behavior-n820651

In addition to racist slurs:
-a former worker was made fun of for wearing "gay tight" clothing, then was fired after he was injured, with Tesla telling him there is "no place for handicapped people at Tesla.
-a former female engineer sued Tesla for gender discrimination and sexual harassment. Of course she was also fired

So gays, blacks, females, and handicapped people have all been allegedly discriminated against at the Fremont factory. But there is no "there" there, right?
 

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Elon Musk may be many things but I doubt he's a racist. No idea why there would be this type of supervision. I know people who work at Tesla and I can't imagine them engaging in or countenancing this type of behavior.

That's where I choked. You have a policy or you don't and it applies across the board.
Yeah, this is a horrible argument but typical of how Tesla responds. It's frequently: We didn't do it and if we did it's OK. It could just say it wouldn't tolerate this behavior. How hard could that be?
 

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CONSTANT TESLA BASHING IS GETTING OLD!!!

Really? Really?

You probably wouldn't last 1 week at the Fremont factory before you #ragequit.

FYI, I searched the forum for the word "hate", and came back with over 100 results. If you're gonna report my post, you better report those hundred other posts too, if that's the game you're playing.
It's the constant Tesla bashing that gets old. What are you trying to gain from it?
 

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That's where I choked. You have a policy or you don't and it applies across the board.
It'd be like a homebuilder using subcontracted electricians to do the wiring work, then 2 months after you move into your new house an electrical fire occurs and your entire home burns down and the homebuilder goes "Sorry, the contractors screwed up the wiring. We're not responsible for that. Tough nuggets". :rolleyes:
 

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Elon Musk may be many things but I doubt he's a racist. No idea why there would be this type of supervision. I know people who work at Tesla and I can't imagine them engaging in or countenancing this type of behavior.

Yeah, this is a horrible argument but typical of how Tesla responds. It's frequently: We didn't do it and if we did it's OK. It could just say it wouldn't tolerate this behavior. How hard could that be?
I'm having trouble with the whole "hotbed" claim. I saw the video and I'm not really clear on what I saw. I seriously doubt this could be a widespread problem. I'm more inclined to believe the Guardian story than the Bloomberg one, even with the TMZ video. It sounds more plausible. None of it suggests a systemic problem other than how Tesla responds, which is troubling.
 

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It's the constant Tesla bashing that gets old. What are you trying to gain from it?
News flash: this is the Tesla forum. No one is forcing you to click my threads. Don't like it, don't read it. Pretty simple concept.
 

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Hotbed of Misinformation

https://www.tesla.com/blog/hotbed-misinformation

Tesla is absolutely against any form of discrimination, harassment, or unfair treatment of any kind. When we hear complaints, we take them very seriously, investigate thoroughly and, if proven to be true, take immediate action.

Everyone at Tesla, without exception, is required to go through an anti-discrimination course. Our human resources team also conducts regular in-person spot training sessions when an allegation or complaint has been made, even if the evidence is not conclusive enough to warrant disciplinary action. We have also created a dedicated team focused exclusively on investigating workplace concerns, recommending corrective actions and assisting managers with implementing those actions.

Regarding yesterday’s lawsuit, several months ago we had already investigated disappointing behavior involving a group of individuals who worked on or near Marcus Vaughn’s team. At the time, our investigation identified a number of conflicting accusations and counter-accusations between several African-American and Hispanic individuals, alleging use of racial language, including the "n-word" and "w-word," towards each other and a threat of violence. After a thorough investigation, immediate action was taken, which included terminating the employment of three of the individuals.

We believe this was the fair and just response to the facts that we learned. There will be further action as necessary, including parting ways with anyone whose behavior prevents Tesla from being a great place to work and making sure we do everything possible to stop bad behavior from happening in the first place. Our company has more than 33,000 employees, with over 10,000 in the Fremont factory alone, so it is not humanly possible to stop all bad conduct, but we will do our best to make it is as close to zero as possible.

There are a number of other false statements in the class action lawsuit alleging a so-called “hotbed of discrimination”:

- There is only one actual plaintiff (Marcus Vaughn), not 100. The reference to 100 is a complete fabrication with no basis in fact at all.

- The plaintiff was employed by a temp agency, not by Tesla as claimed in the lawsuit.

- Marcus was not fired, he was on a six month temp contract that simply ended as contracted.

- His email to Elon was about his commute and Tesla’s shuttles, which was addressed as he requested. There was no mention of racial discrimination whatsoever.

- The trial lawyer who filed this lawsuit has a long track record of extorting money for meritless claims and using the threat of media attacks and expensive trial costs to get companies to settle. At Tesla, we would rather pay ten times the settlement demand in legal fees and fight to the ends of the Earth than give in to extortion and allow this abuse of the legal system.

- We would also like to clear up the description of Elon’s prior email to employees. It is dedicated to ensuring that Tesla employees always try to do the right thing, that being a jerk is not allowed, that everyone should be contributing to an atmosphere where people look forward to coming to work in the morning and that no one should feel excluded, uncomfortable, or unfairly treated. As one of many points in that email, Elon also explained that if someone makes an offensive or hurtful statement on a single occasion, but subsequently offers a sincere apology, then we believe that apology should be accepted. The counterpoint would be that a single careless comment should ruin a person’s life and career, even if they truly regret their action and do their best to make amends. That would be a cold world with no forgiveness and no heart.

 

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It's the constant Tesla bashing that gets old. What are you trying to gain from it?
I, for one, enjoy an opposing view of the typical Jubilant Press reporting on All Things Tesla.

Although this bit sounds like a petty stretch of 'he said - she said' at the floor level.....
 
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