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Whilst at Courtesy Chevrolet having my Volt worked on, I picked up a brochure on this 'ArticBlast' product, which claims to improve the efficiency of the air conditioner. The brochure claims to improve gas mileage by up to 25% and to improve the range of electrics and hybrids. The service person I was working with said they could install it. When I asked if it worked, he was non-committal. Here is their website:

http://never2cold.com

Anybody try this on their Volt?
 

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A cursory reading of the website shows a lot of marketing-type claims with very little to back it up. It sounds very 'snake-oil'-ish to me.
 

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I did a little bit of digging. It mostly looks like this new refrigerant is R1234YF and it's intended to be an environmentally safe refrigerant. R134A (Current) is safer than its predecessor, R12, but still harms the environment if leaked. So in other words, it doesn't improve efficiency, it's just safer. I wouldn't recommending switching to it until you need to recharge your AC.
 

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Since the Volt didn't come with cooled seats, you can get a powered cooled seat cushion very cheap off amazon...
 

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I always love the after market products that come in a can, they all claim the trifecta of improves fuel eco, lowers emissions and adds horse power. WOW! All this in a can of fluid and the major car makers are not using it? Seems if they really worked, GM would put this stuff in there cars from the factory. There is a sucker born every minute it seems. Oh, and there is no conversion to go from a R12 or R134 Freon to the new R1234 Freon.
 

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I always love the after market products that come in a can, they all claim the trifecta of improves fuel eco, lowers emissions and adds horse power. WOW! All this in a can of fluid and the major car makers are not using it? Seems if they really worked, GM would put this stuff in there cars from the factory. There is a sucker born every minute it seems. Oh, and there is no conversion to go from a R12 or R134 Freon to the new R1234 Freon.
Well, as I indicated above, I obtained the brochure from Courtesy Chevrolet in Phoenix, etc. . . .
 

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It may be a blend with 1234yf. A lot of those aftermarket kits use refrigerant blends to get "the best of everything" such as lower operating pressures, higher heat saturation capability, etc. Unfortunately with most blends if one gets a leak the whole system must be evacuated (which should be done anyway) and refilled since the different refrigerants may leak at different rates due to molecule size. This means one shouldn't just top it off since it changes the blend.

Another refrigerant that seems to be better than 12, 134a and was actually a competing refrigerant was 152a. Lots of data on youtube since it's the ingredient in those canned air products. It supposedly has performance better than 134a with pressures that are similar to r12 with a GWP (greenhouse warming potential) about 1/10th that of 134a. I did that conversion on my '94 Oldsmobile when I rebuilt the A/C system a couple years ago and noticed it did have similar performance to 134 and didn't seem to impact my mpg quite as much, maybe 1-2 mpg better though I didn't really have long to test as it was after the halfway point of summer. It did use about 1/3 less than 134a called for (30oz to 21oz) and pressures were a good 50-70 psi lower on the high side which I'm sure helped mpg since the compressor didn't have to work as hard.

However all that said, Since most of us know relatively little about the Volts refrigerant system and how foreign refrigerants may impact the 300V compressor, BTM system, etc. perhaps it's just best to stick with what the engineers designed for use, especially since I recall reading they don't even recommend home top offs with small cans due to the inclusion of oil in most of those cans but rather using a 30lb tank.
 

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Click and Clack always said look for the word "miracle" on the can when you buy this stuff.
 

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Well, as I indicated above, I obtained the brochure from Courtesy Chevrolet in Phoenix, etc. . . .
Some Chevy dealers will also sell you nitrogen for filling up your tires, claiming it's so much better than air that race car drivers use it. However, plain old air is mostly nitrogen as well, and most Volt drivers are not driving the car at the Indy 500 or Formula 1. Just because a Chevy dealer sells undercoating, nitrogen, etc. does not mean you need it or that you will see benefits outweighing the costs.
 

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Some Chevy dealers will also sell you nitrogen for filling up your tires, claiming it's so much better than air that race car drivers use it. However, plain old air is mostly nitrogen as well, and most Volt drivers are not driving the car at the Indy 500 or Formula 1. Just because a Chevy dealer sells undercoating, nitrogen, etc. does not mean you need it or that you will see benefits outweighing the costs.
There is a SHRED of sense behind this in that oxygen, which makes up most of the REST of air that isn't nitrogen, can be much more easily transported through rubber than nitrogen can, to the point that given non-leaking seals and valves in a tire, almost all of what DOES escape is just oxygen. So a pure nitrogen fill will "last longer" in a tire than an air fill. That's probably not worth the $30 or whatever, though as you can fix the low-tire situation for free most of the time, and even if you paid a buck for every top up, it would probably take longer than the life of the tire to make up the difference.
 

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Lessons I learned from my grandpa
1) if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
2) if it sounds too good to be true it probably is
My grandpa taught me the same thing.

I would not trust a dealership that is "non-committal" when asked if something they profit from worked.

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Does JC Whitney sell it? If they do, it must be good. :p
 

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