[llninja]

Does any forum member of lurker own a CT6 plug-in? Anyone?

I recall some forum members test driving them, and choosing to purchase other vehicle sales instead, but I'm curious whether anyone has bought one and could submit real-life insights on the car. I'm hoping they become heavily discounted by the time I'm ready to replace the CTS.

 

[volt spain]

Here in Savannah/Hiltonhead area, when you want a trial drive , the dealers try to sell you a regular CTS ICE, since they do not have a plug model !!!

 

[11715]

Does any forum member of lurker own a CT6 plug-in? Anyone?

I recall some forum members test driving them, and choosing to purchase other vehicle sales instead, but I'm curious whether anyone has bought one and could submit real-life insights on the car. I'm hoping they become heavily discounted by the time I'm ready to replace the CTS.

Isn't it built in China and imported to the USA?

 

[El Dobro]

Isn't it built in China and imported to the USA?

Yes, it is.

 

[Mister Dave]

Yes, it is.

All 64 of them.

 

[jayoldschool]

lol, the guy who craps on a $150 Chinese EVSE in every single thread wants a car made in China.

 

[Qinsp]

There is Cadillac Collective site for the CT6 PHEV. I'll find it Monday. It's where the owners are discussing the car with the chief engineer.

The build quality appears to be identical to the US CT6's, I went over the Chinese one pretty thoroughly. Not a fan of the Chinese automakers, but this was no CODA.

 

[llninja]

lol, the guy who craps on a $150 Chinese EVSE in every single thread wants a car made in China.

I'll buy an Apple, Android, laptop, or Gm product designed in the US and manufactured elsewhere, but I won't buy a Duosida or any cheap Chinese crap like Coby Blueray players sold at Walmart. I'll also avoid Lenovo as they "bought" their quality by acquiring parts of IBM and Motorola.

And it's let's of a buy American thing, more of a rebel against a country that does horrific things to oppress their people. I've known people who were murdered in China for bad business deals.

 

[Mister Dave]

There is Cadillac Collective site for the CT6 PHEV. I'll find it Monday. It's where the owners are discussing the car with the chief engineer.

The build quality appears to be identical to the US CT6's, I went over the Chinese one pretty thoroughly. Not a fan of the Chinese automakers, but this was no CODA.

https://www.cadillaccollective.com/h/SignIn?ReturnUrl=%2fh%2f

 

[don shaw]

i am a "buy made in America" guy. But in this case sort of support the GM decision to make the plug in CT6 in china, because that is where the evident larger market for the plug in is, and the china tariff's prevent selling cars at a competitive price in China that are exported from the US. i.e., we need to maximize the number of electric vehicles sold to help the environment and production in China is one way to increase ev sales.

Still waiting to see if GM can sell the Bolt in quantity - disappointing so far. I asked one Buick/chevy dealer if they had a bolt , and he said 'we don't want to sell that piece of junk'. GM may work around the dealer negative attitudes by making the CT6 plug in in China.

 

[Qinsp]

...
Still waiting to see if GM can sell the Bolt in quantity - disappointing so far. I asked one Buick/chevy dealer if they had a bolt , and he said 'we don't want to sell that piece of junk'. ...

At one dealership, the sales manager told me in no uncertain terms the Bolt was much smaller inside than the Volt. He had driven both cars at a GM conference, and the Bolt was certainly not a very wise choice in automobiles. And some other assorted BS that was completely untrue.

A Cadillac dealer told me the CT6 PHEV was not coming to the US for 2017 and tried to aim me at a CTS. Not even a CT6. A CTS. Ugh.

 

[volt spain]

GM should move fast...AUDI will have an Electric SUV next year, big and powerful,,,and so will VOLVO, VW, and other European companies. Timing is everything...VOLTEC should be transfer to the larger GM cars to keep ahead in the electric market...

 

[Raymondjram]

I'll buy an Apple, Android, laptop, or Gm product designed in the US and manufactured elsewhere, but I won't buy a Duosida or any cheap Chinese crap like Coby Blueray players sold at Walmart. I'll also avoid Lenovo as they "bought" their quality by acquiring parts of IBM and Motorola.

Lenovo existed (founded in 1984) and manufactured components for the ThinkCenter PCs and ThinkPad laptops before IBM sold it all to Lenovo, due to the high competition of the other brands. Lenovo uses IBM's original engineering and made improvements. In 2014 IBM sold the xSeries line of Intel-based servers to Lenovo.

In regards to the purchase of IBM's personal computer division, Liu Chuanzhi (Lenovo founder) said, "We benefited in three ways from the IBM acquisition. We got the ThinkPad brand, IBM's more advanced PC manufacturing technology and the company's international resources, such as its global sales channels and operation teams. These three elements have shored up our sales revenue in the past several years."

As a PC user and servicing them since 1981, I see Lenovo as one of the top three quality PC and laptop manufacturers. I also own one Lenovo laptop and a ThinkPad tablet.

 

[Bob_Livonia]

I was in Shanghai in May, and the number of EV's on the road there is truly impressive. A couple of Teslas parked outside my hotel. At the apartment my brother was renting for an extended stay, there was a Tesla based there - must be charged in a public charging station. There are many Chinese-made EVs and plug-in hybrids; including BYD and Trumpchi (no joke - it translates to China's Best - when Trump got elected, the company thought that's even better, it will add to the prestige of their name - they're looking at changing it to sell in the US). The Trumpchi is a large luxury car - I rode in one with Didi, which is the Chinese version of Uber, and I was quite impressed. With the size of the Chinese market, their need to reduce air pollution in big cities, their government's support, and their head start, look out! As EVs become less expensive to produce than ICE's, China will be providing competition to the US car industry that will make 2009 look like just a little bump in the road.

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https://1drv.ms/i/s!An-mc7ZeMBD3-xlQuqE57PCwtjkX

 

[11715]

GM should move fast...AUDI will have an Electric SUV next year, big and powerful,,,and so will VOLVO, VW, and other European companies. Timing is everything...VOLTEC should be transfer to the larger GM cars to keep ahead in the electric market...

GM sells trucks. They don't have much interest in EV's

 

[Bob_Livonia]

GM sells trucks. They don't have much interest in EV's

GM's cash cow is trucks, which funds EV development and other things, unlike Silicon Valley companies that haven't made a profit, who are funded by venture capitalists. But GM's truck share is eroding, and they are neck-to-neck with Ram for second place in the sales race.

 

[Qinsp]

GM's cash cow is trucks, which funds EV development and other things, unlike Silicon Valley companies that haven't made a profit, who are funded by venture capitalists. But GM's truck share is eroding, and they are neck-to-neck with Ram for second place in the sales race.

GM sold 440k pickups in the USA so far this year, they make 4 models. Ford has sold 499k of all versions. Dodge sold 290k.

GM made $9.43 billion in net income in 2016.
Ford made $4.6 billion.
Fiat/Chrysler made $1.9 billion.

GM also has sold more plug-in vehicles than anybody in the USA. And they have a hybrid pickup. You have to order it.
Their luxury plug-in has about twice the EV range as any other luxury PHEV. It could be argued that the Volt powertrain is the real solution for having EV emissions and performance, yet no restrictions on long trips.

They are the only company that sells a 200+ mile range EV for under $50k.
And their Volt is still the most advanced EREV ever made.

 

[Bob_Livonia]

GM sold 440k pickups in the USA so far this year, they make 4 models. Ford has sold 499k of all versions. Dodge sold 290k.

That's well and good; GM has done a lot of good stuff, but like Ford, it's stock price is languishing; FCA has thrown in the towel when it comes to affording capital expenditures; i.e., "Confessions of a Capital Junkie"

You are right about the total with the brands grouped, but here are the reported numbers, 2017 YTD through July:

Ford F-series: 499,327
Chevy Silverado: 308,906
Ram P/U: 290,151
GMC Sierra 119,116

(Total Chevy & GMC P/U 428,022)

This comes from an article "U.S. Pickup Truck Sales Dipped in July 2017 – Blame General Motors"
http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/20...s-slowed-down-july-2017-blame-general-motors/

 

[Qinsp]

That's well and good; GM has done a lot of good stuff, but like Ford, it's stock price is languishing; FCA has thrown in the towel when it comes to affording capital expenditures; i.e., "Confessions of a Capital Junkie"

You are right about the total with the brands grouped, but here are the reported numbers, 2017 YTD through July:

Ford F-series: 499,327
Chevy Silverado: 308,906
Ram P/U: 290,151
GMC Sierra 119,116

(Total Chevy & GMC P/U 428,022)

This comes from an article "U.S. Pickup Truck Sales Dipped in July 2017 – Blame General Motors"
http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/20...s-slowed-down-july-2017-blame-general-motors/

Actually GM makes 4. You forgot the Colorado and Canyon.

 

[Bob_Livonia]

Actually GM makes 4. You forgot the Colorado and Canyon.

OK, I'm just comparing the full size pickups - there are a lot of SUVs and minivans considered trucks (over 50% of sales); I'm just looking at the full-size pickups that are the most often compared, although Canyon and Colorado are a lot bigger and nicer now