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Elon knows what you did in your Tesla last summer/last week/last hour/last minute....

I saw some fanbois complain on various FB owner groups about the article on the homepage yesterday as being another attempt to unfairly drag Tesla's name in the mud in order to sabotage it's stock price, and other nonsense like that, and I'm sure they'll do a similar thing with the above article.

Author suggests that Tesla may be taken to court sometime in the future over their purchase agreements owners are forced to agree to prior to taking delivery of their vehicle.
 

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being another attempt to unfairly drag Tesla's name in the mud in order to sabotage it's stock price, and other nonsense like that,
I wouldn't so dismissive on that line of thought, you can hire teams of trolls for peanuts to flood all types of online media and its done everyday.

There is huge sums bet on both side of that stock, so I for one think its more likely true than not and I don't follow or even car about that company in any way.

The GM-Volt posting may not be biased, but the comment section is wide open to anyone to spread their views, paid or otherwise
 

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Don't see how it's a hit piece. I wouldn't be surprised if most Tesla owners aren't really aware of the extent the car can be monitored. Owners should be fully aware of what they are getting into so they can make an informed choice.
 

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Don't see how it's a hit piece. I wouldn't be surprised if most Tesla owners aren't really aware of
Suggesting Tesla will be taken to court for those user agreements is enough to get the fanbois amped up.
 

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I wonder how much data OnStar and GM collect on GM owners? On the Corvette Forum there have been many reports of guys taking their cars in for "warranty work" only to be told since they had "tracked" their car the item wasn't covered.

So it's just not a Tesla thing.
 

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Don't see how it's a hit piece. I wouldn't be surprised if most Tesla owners aren't really aware of the extent the car can be monitored. Owners should be fully aware of what they are getting into so they can make an informed choice.
The vast majority of Tesla owners are aware of how their car can be tracked because they use the smartphone app, and are shown how to use it upon delivery. It would be crazy to assume that only you can see your car, and not Tesla. The delivery specialists are very good at communicating this, and 5-10 minutes of that delivery process covers this. Another reason franchised dealerships are not wanted by Tesla.
 

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The vast majority of Tesla owners are aware of how their car can be tracked because they use the smartphone app, and are shown how to use it upon delivery. It would be crazy to assume that only you can see your car, and not Tesla. The delivery specialists are very good at communicating this, and 5-10 minutes of that delivery process covers this. Another reason franchised dealerships are not wanted by Tesla.
Applying logic to a situation like this might not work. I wouldn't be surprised to find many don't think it through to that degree.
 

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I wonder how much data OnStar and GM collect on GM owners? On the Corvette Forum there have been many reports of guys taking their cars in for "warranty work" only to be told since they had "tracked" their car the item wasn't covered.

So it's just not a Tesla thing.
While true when you buy a GM vehicle you need to sign a specific form that opts you into monitoring your car and you can choose not to sign it (and GM will not monitor your car).

I believe at Tesla you are required as part of vehicle acceptance to agree to being monitored without the option of opting out.
 

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Re: Tesla vs Volt tracking

Picked up our X yesterday and turned on app this AM as wife was on way to work. Holy crap. Volt app is DOGMEAT compared to what I saw. With Volt app, you ping it and HOPE the app finds the car within the next couple minutes. You ping it again SEPARATELY to find out a few driving stats. With Tesla app, I could see direction of car, location, speed, CONTINOUS movement, whether car was regenerating or using battery (and by how much)...and some more things I'll have to find out what they mean. It's not just Tesla who is watching your car. YOU can watch your car too (like teen driver or something). My wife and I used to joke about OnStar app being the 'stalker app'...well, it ain't got nothin on the Tesla stalker app.
 
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