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Another LED Headlight Question

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Looking to upgrade my headlights. After reading many posts ..... I'm more confused than ever. Lots of links to products no longer available etc....

I'm never sure which ones fit and which ones do not. I bought a pair that fit my son's Cobalt(?) but they didn't fit my Volt. I have a '12.

Anyway, would one of these work? Which one? H7?, H11? I'm kinna sick of looking. around.

Any help is always appreciated. Thanks.
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I ordered these 9012s for $69 -

Great quality and puts a ton more light out on low beam. High beam is only slightly better, but the low beam spreads the light to the sides and fills in the details so much more than stock. So impressed by the quality that I ordered a set for my wife's Volt and my motorcycle (H4).

No affiliation with the above. Just a happy customer. Fast shipping too.
Send the H4 back for sure. It will be terrible. If you want quality light upgrade the halogens or do a retrofit.
Now I'm upset. I paid them $199 for 2500 lumen LEDs and now they have 4000 lumen kits for $69.

AAAARRRGH!!! Well, time to upgrade I guess.

Also put in coupon code X10 for another $7 off.
They aren’t actually 4000 lumen, just a heads up. The ones you have I very much doubt they are 2500 either. Offshore LED bulb swaps are incredibly inflated.
That's okay. The last set were an improvement and if this set is another improvement I'm fine with the $69 I just spent.

What is it with you and LED headlamps anyway? You seem to have issues.
Because they are a waste of money. If you upgrade the halogen bulbs, it will be a much improved upgrade over a Chinese LED bulb swap. HID and LED belong in housings designed for each light source. I’ve proven it on the Facebook page more than once. With volt projectors
Turboguy327, We've had our disagreements in the past, but on this I agree 100%.
Most of the assembly companies use RAW data from the LED chip maker and real world output is usually around 85% of that.

There do seem to be a few exceptions that list more realistic numbers.
And it drops even more once refracted through the headlight optics that where not designed for it and are very inefficient at distributing light from LEDs.

Glad we can finally agree on something.
And what about halogen output claims?
I’m not sure what your question is?
I don't want to take anything away from your findings. Are you saying I haven't seen an improvement with my car?
Idk. Have you? I know that upgrading halogen bulbs will give you better results than a Chinese LED bulb swap. Anything is a improvement over stock but you can get halogen bulbs cheaper that will be more reliable and easier to install than cheap LED bulbs. I know they aren’t actually cheap, but they are made very cheaply.
The ones I installed are Phillips brand and a much higher quality of machining and assembly than I've seen from "Chinese LED" bulbs. We can agree that the latter are terrible. Well worth the money for what *I* want in a headlight.

The color is a nice white. Not blue, not yellow, but a nice bright white. Not everything made in China is cheap or junk.
I know. I own a collection of DJI products. LED bulbs on the other hand...

Did you buy them directly from Philips? Or a authorized retailer?

And did the package have 1 “L” on its packaging or 2? Real philips products only has 1 L. Common way to sell forgeries is to have Philips with 2 Ls.
No, other coast-ish.

I'm in Utah.
Just curious, was hoping to compare. I edited my post after you posted.
Is this a meaningless claim? If so, why?
Well, I have no idea where it came from so.... And, probably considering that the only bulb that can replicate a halogen bulb.... is a halogen bulb.
I'm not trying to mock you. You were very certain about your post, and now we're at "probably".

Here's the data sheet on the chips if it helps:

Now if you know something we don't please share it. I'm not looking for perfect bulbs, but I'm all for having more useful information.
LED bulb swaps just can’t replicate halogen bulbs. It’s a fact. Not a opinion. And I was being sarcastic.
You say. Again, I'm not mocking you or being sarcastic, but I don't take anyone's word in a forum for what a fact is.
Your loss on information. Look at them lit up outside of a housing if you don’t believe me. It’s just how LEDs output light. It’s also just common sense when you look at them side by side.
Funny you should mention side-by-side because that's exactly what I did with them installed in the car. Not that photos tell the whole story, but......

Just a few with the 2500 lumen LEDs against the best halogens I have. Sorry I don't have anything with the 4000 lumen kits, but I only just ordered them.
Lights are bright when you stare right at them? No ****? Never knew that... Besides, look at all the glare. Your pictures prove my point. The light isn’t focused correctly. Best halogens?? It says OEM in the pictures...
What the images suggest (note I don't say "prove") is that in front of the car, where you might expect, that the LED is putting out a bit more light into the camera than the best halogens I have.

May I ask you one more time to produce your evidence where as you said, you proved on Facebook that halogens work better? I'm very interested to know the particulars of this proof.

It was only a few years ago that LED couldn't come close to the OEMs. Later, as I acquired my first set that appeared to not be the case though LED was quite a bit more expensive. I think LEDs have advanced to the point where they can be even brighter and competitive on price too. I would be concerned about blinding oncoming drivers if not for the shutter mechanism in the Volt headlight assemblies.

The one thing they suck at is melting driving wet snow off of the headlight assemblies. They don't get hot enough.
I’d have to go back and find it all.

The shutter assemblies work just like any other projector. They don’t magically stop glare inside a volt headlight. They focus the light out of the lens and provide a cutoff line. But they don’t stop glare all by themselves. Your pictures show the glare that halogens don’t have... If your car came in for a inspection, I would fail it.
I can see the effect the shutters have. The cutoff line is where it is and works fine. I have yet to be flashed by an oncoming driver.

It's interesting how you say all these things as if I haven't experienced driving with my LED headlights.

You didn't tell us you were an inspector. Then again, I don't recall having my car inspected for headlights... like..... ever.
Well, come to NY and you’ll grow to hate princess Andy just like everyone else.
Illinois is bad enough with Prince Madigan, thank you.
Window tint became part of state inspection 1/1/17 but his windows painted black.
Following your link, those bulbs were $169 not $69, unless you got a great deal. They are now discontinued as well.

The site recommends these:

For $129.
You don’t want either of these anyway.
What I see is a guy who completely fails to understand the difference between posting "I have that I think is a better solution because " vs "That stuff is crap and you people are idiots", which is how you generally come across to others in this forum.
I’ve explained myself quite a few times to you and others. Even proper LED setup, OEM or aftermarket isn’t a march for a basic HID setup.

Even as a glare kid as you push to most people.

The comment you made towards me could also be turned around and pointed back at yourself.

“I use LED bulb swaps so everybody else must also use LED bulbs swaps”

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Ooops!! Credibility out the window there. Sorry Turboguy.
You do realize there are 2018 model year vehicles out that you can purchase right? If you don’t know that who is credibility are you questioning?
If you're buying a Mini Cooper (among others) you can't buy a 2018 until Monday. Notice I didn't preface with "you do realize".
It doesn’t have to be in the year 2018 to buy a 2018 model year vehicle. There are many manufacturers that sell vehicles long before the year start there are many manufacturers that sell vehicles long before the year starts. How do you not know this? Lol 🤦

Just another reason not to buy a ****ty Mini Cooper.
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