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I would have jumped for joy that at last there's a very affordable plug-in hybrid SUV offered by Mitsubishi. My joy turned to sorrow after I read the pathetic 13-mile range for the effort of plugging it in for 4 hours 馃槶. The reason why the Plug-In-Prius went flop because it also has very little range, like 12 miles. They should have at least have an electric range of 50 miles!

https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/auto/2018-mitsubishi-outlander-phev/preview/
 

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I doubt it will me as low as 15 miles. It comes with a 12kwh battery. Even if we get to use 10kwh out of that, it should give at least 25 miles in EPA cycle. But this 25 miles is much much better that ZERO miles for any other affordable midsize PHEV SUV (which does not exist as of yet). If this had come with 7 seats, I would have bought it in a heart beat.
 

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Anyone else find it odd that they went to the expense of adding DC fast charging, but only a 12kWh battery? I would have at lesat gone to 16kWh to take full advantage of the tax credit.
I'll take 16kWh with 30A L2 charging over 12kWh with DC fast charging any day.
 

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They've had this car out in the UK now for a couple of years and it's very popular there. They've been promising it here in North America since around 2013 but never delivered....for me it's a case of too little too late as I've bought a Volt instead that will do me just fine until my warranty runs out in 3 years and I'll be in the market again to see what's available at that time
 

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Stop, slow down, breathe. :) Now read it again: "Mitsubishi hasn't tested the electric range yet, but said it is confident it will beat the luxury automakers' average of 13 miles. "
Ha ha ha fat chance. They don't even state if it is the over-optimistic NEDC or Japanese electric test range. We need the EPA range, and I hope they can beat the 13-mile range not by 1/2 mile but by another 13 miles.
 

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Anyone else find it odd that they went to the expense of adding DC fast charging, but only a 12kWh battery? I would have at lesat gone to 16kWh to take full advantage of the tax credit.
I'll take 16kWh with 30A L2 charging over 12kWh with DC fast charging any day.
Designed for the Japanese domestic market, where not having CHAdeMO can be inconvenient for charging and manufacturers are selling CHAdeMO based home backup power solutions. The Mirai has a CHAdeMO outlet there too, but it can't charge from it.
 

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Whatever the range, I am glad to see it. The SUV segment needs more options, and this is a start. This is what people want to drive. I'm not an SUV driver, personally, but let't get these on the road. Even 13 miles range could save a lot of gas.
 

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After their short drive, Greencarreports estimates about 22 miles for this AWD SUV.
Or, half of a typical round trip commute. Depending on speed, terrian, temperature, driver, etc. of course.
 

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This may explain why G.M. has delayed a Voltec powered CUV. The loss of range by such a flying brick is still too great to justify making the car for the expected sales level. Still waiting on a Miracle Battery to make flying bricks practical.
 

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That's a good start! But boy oh boy, what an energy hogs the SUV's are! It gets less than 2 miles per kWH!!! My Gen 2 Volt gets 5 miles per kWH this summer!
Apples and Oranges. You're comparing the nominal capacity of the Outlander vs the usable capacity of the Volt. The smaller pack also means they need a larger percentage for the working buffer - and the heavier weight requires yet more.

(But yes, a typical boxy heavy SUV will normally eat more power than a heavily optimized compact car.)
 

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After their short drive, Greencarreports estimates about 22 miles for this AWD SUV.
The sentence about range in the article is horribly worded and confusing. So the OP's error is understandable.

Nevertheless, the OP should be back and edit the first post in this thread so as not to misinform readers.
 

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My joy turned to sorrow after I read the pathetic 13-mile range[...]
After their short drive, Greencarreports estimates about 22 miles for this AWD SUV.
The sentence about range in the article is horribly worded and confusing. So the OP's error is understandable.

Nevertheless, the OP should be back and edit the first post in this thread so as not to misinform readers.
 

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My joy turned to sorrow after I read the pathetic 13-mile range[...]
Stop, slow down, breathe. :) Now read it again: "Mitsubishi hasn't tested the electric range yet, but said it is confident it will beat the luxury automakers' average of 13 miles. "
After their short drive, Greencarreports estimates about 22 miles for this AWD SUV.
The sentence about range in the article is horribly worded and confusing. So the OP's error is understandable.

Nevertheless, the OP should be back and edit the first post in this thread so as not to misinform readers.
 

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This poor energy efficiency illustrates why the classic cardboard box on wheels really isn't practical.

Should optimize the shape and features to clean up the box.
 
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