[rickoliver]

Hey there - couldn't find a thread on this. It appears that Assemblymember Richard Bloom is well down the path of approving new legislation to extend the HOV program through 2025 in California - details here: https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/billTextClient.xhtml?bill_id=201720180AB544

Something curious in the most recent summary:

1) Provided that, for white HOV decals issued for ILEVs and green HOV decals issued for TZEVs, the following expiration dates apply:
a) Decals issued prior to January 1, 2018, are valid until January 1, 2019;
b) Decals issued on or after January 1, 2018, and before January 1, 2019, are valid until January 1, 2022; and,
c) Decals issued on or after January 1, 2019, are valid until January 1 of the fourth year after the year of issuance.

If I read this literally, it means that my 2017 Volt with sticker issued in 2016 won't be eligible under the new program and will expire on January 1 2019? Is that right? Has anyone been following this legislation and be able to interpret the results better than I can?

I will have to buy a new car in 2018 if this is the case. Thank you in advance!

 

[freshcut]

I haven't read through the text of the proposal, but regarding the issuance of stickers after specific dates, could one just simply apply for a new sticker after their "old" one has expired? I know in the past, unless one applied for a name change, the stickers were invalidated even though they were tied to the VIN and they do have a separate card to indicate the registered owner, and without that information matching the registration are again invalidated.

 

[forecheck]

I am not happy with this bill, as it seems to be a big gift to the auto dealers and throws crumbs to the consumers. The stickers last 3 years and can't be renewed, so will drive people to get a new car every 3 years if they want a sticker, which is great for the auto makers and dealers. The only exemption to the 3 year rule are stickers issued in 2017 and 2018 which were due to expire Jan 2019, those people can get an additional 3 years. Any car purchased before 2017 is done in Jan 2019, which was the original expiration date. In the future (2019 and on), the only other way to get more than 3 years is buy as early in the year as possible, as these new stickers will be good for the remainder of the year plus 3 years after that.

 

[forecheck]

If I read this literally, it means that my 2017 Volt with sticker issued in 2016 won't be eligible under the new program and will expire on January 1 2019? Is that right? Has anyone been following this legislation and be able to interpret the results better than I can?

I will have to buy a new car in 2018 if this is the case. Thank you in advance!

I would buy on or after January 1, 2019 and make sure the dealer didn't pre-order stickers and have them issued to it already, make sure they are issued in 2019. That will give you almost 4 years, until Jan 1, 2023

 

[rickoliver]

Wow so I was right... a 2016-issued sticker expires on 1/1/19, no matter what. Forecheck you are right, they are forcing us to buy new cars even though we are compliant with the spirit of the legislation. I actually don't have a problem buying a new car as long as the standards are tougher as a result (e.g. buy an electric car AND install a solar charging station).

All said, we should probably contact our State Assembly members to convey our disgust. Super important. The sticker is the only reason I bought the car, frankly.

http://findyourrep.legislature.ca.gov

 

[Belgin]

In addition, drivers that receive the Clean Vehicle Rebate, a state-funded rebate that can be several thousand dollars, won’t be eligible for HOV lane stickers unless their gross annual income falls below $150,000 for a single tax filer, $204,000 for a head of household filer, and $300,000 for joint filers.

My sticker dies in 2019. I assume once a VIN has received a sticker, it cannot get another not even for a price. They appear to want to keep number of cars down in in HOV even if you car meets the emission standard. Obviously this will impact the resale of the older cars.

 

[rickoliver]

So that means people exceeding those income brackets can get the sticker but not the rebate, and vice versa?

 

[forecheck]

And it now has been signed, along with other zero emission related bills:

http://www.imperialvalleynews.com/i...-to-increase-zero-emission-vehicle-sales.html

 

[forecheck]

So that means people exceeding those income brackets can get the sticker but not the rebate, and vice versa?

That's the way I read it, no decal if your income is over the limit and you take the rebate. Not sure if you turn down the rebate if you can then take the decal? Now that it is passed I am sure the experts on reading bills will be able to clarify it.

(b) (1) The department shall not issue a decal, label, or other identifier to an applicant who has received a consumer rebate pursuant to the Clean Vehicle Rebate Project, established as part of the Air Quality Improvement Program pursuant to Article 3 (commencing with Section 44274) of Chapter 8.9 of Part 5 of Division 26 of the Health and Safety Code, for a vehicle purchased on or after January 1, 2018, unless the rebate was issued to a buyer whose gross annual income falls below one hundred fifty thousand dollars ($150,000) for a person who files a tax return as a single person, two hundred four thousand dollars ($204,000) for a person who files a tax return as a head of household, and three hundred thousand dollars ($300,000) for a person who files a joint tax return.