[wws]

Hadn't seen this posted here yet: http://www.cleanmpg.com/community/index.php?threads/53050/

A few fun things, including:

- It is rated 19 miles AER, he got almost 35 miles electric. (Note: He is the one who did the record 112 miles electric on a Gen 2 Volt. Ari then nudged past him at 114 miles.)

- The factory EVSE is dual voltage and comes with two dongles - one for a normal 120v 5-15 receptacle, the other for a NEMA 6-50.

- Single electric motor in series with the ICE.

The main thing that will be controversial is that the 2016 E-Tron has a 'Charge Battery' mode. This allows the ICE to recharge the traction battery - similar to how Mountain Mode works in the Volt. Gerdes found a case where he claims it is efficient - if you are driving mostly highway miles:

1.) Run in EV mode until the battery is depleted.

2.) While on the highway, turn on Charge Battery mode. Leave it there for most of the remainder of the trip. (It will automatically switch to Hybrid Mode when the battery is full.)

3.) Towards the end of the trip, switch to EV Mode, and drive the last few, presumably slow in-town, miles all electric.

In conclusion, he states "I was skeptical that driving the A3 e-tron as a Serial Hybrid and then consuming the SoC added would even come close to just driving it as a Full hybrid until I did the calculations. As they revealed, force charging the 8.8 kWh Li-Ion pack on the highway for later heavy inner city use is not only feasible but recommended!"

Interestingly, Audi apparently removed "Charge Mode" from the 2017 cars.

 

[mr_raider]

Test drove the 2016. Couldn't make a case for buying it. Less range than the Volt. Does NOT function as a pure EV under hard acceleration or above certain speeds. More expensive. Crappy infotainment system. Lower rebate.

 

[viking79]

I think all hybrids should have a charge mode and hold at x% mode (set hold %), I think they leave it off for ZEV credit reasons. It is what makes the US version of the BMW i3 REx somewhat useless, it only allows hold at 6%, not flexible like Euro model that can hold at high charge stayes for long distance travel.

 

[jsmay311]

I think all hybrids should have a charge mode and hold at x% mode (set hold %), I think they leave it off for ZEV credit reasons. It is what makes the US version of the BMW i3 REx somewhat useless, it only allows hold at 6%, not flexible like Euro model that can hold at high charge stayes for long distance travel.

Seriously. It's practically a crime how the i3 Rex is purposefully made far less practical and with far less utility just in order to maximize its "value" for CARB credits for BMW. (Unadjustable, too-low battery buffer set point, and laughably small gas tank)
http://insideevs.com/bmw-i3-rex-bevx-restrictions-plea-carb-unleash-rex/

 

[rhodomel]

(Note: He is the one who did the record 112 miles electric on a Gen 2 Volt. Ari then nudged past him at 114 miles.)

Really? I can easily get 122 miles on my Gen 2 Volt per charge. In one remarkable day, I charged twice and got 275 miles total for the 24 hour period. Come summer time, I should be able to push it some more. Another Gen 2 Volt owner who's a forum member here got 126 miles for single charge.

 

[Kraven]

Really? I can easily get 122 miles on my Gen 2 Volt per charge. In one remarkable day, I charged twice and got 275 miles total for the 24 hour period. Come summer time, I should be able to push it some more. Another Gen 2 Volt owner who's a forum member here got 126 miles for single charge.

That's pretty amazing...I wonder what your average MPH are for these stats, whether there is a net elevation loss or other factors helping you get 120+ miles on a single charge. Obviously there must be, and if you are doing this in your normal driving routine.

 

[rhodomel]

That's pretty amazing...I wonder what your average MPH are for these stats, whether there is a net elevation loss or other factors helping you get 120+ miles on a single charge. Obviously there must be, and if you are doing this in your normal driving routine.

My normal commuting is I only get 48 (when raining) to 61 EV miles, this winter even at 35F early morning temps with almost 50% freeway and 50% city driving. So it is not that outstanding.

On the spring and fall weekends, I scout for fishing spots along the back roads, so I crawl at 25 to 45 mph, but mostly 35 mph and got those high numbers per charge. Will try to see if I can do better next year.

 

[rhodomel]

My normal commuting is I only get 48 (when raining) to 61 EV miles, this winter even at 35F early morning temps with almost 50% freeway and 50% city driving. So it is not that outstanding.

On the spring and fall weekends, I scout for fishing spots along the back roads, so I crawl at 25 to 45 mph, but mostly 35 mph and got those high numbers per charge. Will try to see if I can do better next year.

Yeah, and if you see a pretty Korean girl with a fishing pole coming out of a Siren Red Volt along backroads that parallel the Delta-Mendota canal, that would be me.

 

[Kraven]

Yeah, and if you see a pretty Korean girl with a fishing pole coming out of a Siren Red Volt along backroads that parallel the Delta-Mendota canal, that would be me.

Thanks for the replies, those conditions make sense. I get the same EV miles per charge as you in your commuting scenario. The picture you paint of your spring/fall weekends sounds pretty awesome, hope you and your gf catch many fish in 2017!

 

[Qinsp]

Here's what number Audi USA filed with the EPA:

https://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/Find.do?action=sbs&id=38228&id=37309

Premium fuel, 16 mi gimped EV range, so-so hybrid mode fuel economy.