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It's getting more difficult to get EV charging spots these days in California. When I got to this shopping center (Bella Terra), both spots were available. When I returned, a new Model S was next to me. It was so new, it didn't have plates or the HOV decals on it yet.

 

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Better than what we have hear in N. VA where most malls have 0 EV spots. Fair Oaks Mall, Potomac Mills, Dulles Town Center, Reston Town Center, Tysons I and Tysons II all have no charging stations.

I was at Fair Oaks yesterday and did try out the outlet near Macys downstairs parking and was able to charge at L1. I noticed the outlet a few months ago, but this was the first time I was able to park close enough to try it out.
 

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It is kind of ridiculous for a giant shopping mall to have just two charging spots, and right at the entrance where they are most likely to get ICEd.
I sorta "embellished" my original post's title. It's not a traditional mall, in a sense. It's more of an upscale shopping center--much smaller than a mall. Check it out...Bella Terra.
 

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I dunno, it sets A certain tone..... Probably the high visibility is what the mall shops were after. Gorgeous tech on display in medium and extra large sizes.
 

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Similar thing happened today with me - plugged in at a mall in Napa CA, Tesla S was in next spot upon my return. Repeat of same thing, same cars, same place a while back. I thought of putting a note on his car offering a 15 minute swap, but couldn't find suitable nook for my note. Rats....
 

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Must be nice to charge at all these places for free... I checked plugshare.. It's free to charge there :)
 

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Must be nice to charge at all these places for free... I checked plugshare.. It's free to charge there :)
There are quite a few free public charging places around my area. Places like South Coast Plaza (mall with a lot of chargers), IKEA, Huntington Beach Main St. parking structure, Verizon store on Beach Blvd (I'll charge there and walk across the street to Target), Bella Terra (shopping), numerous Nissan & Chevy dealerships, Mitsubishi's North American HQ (lots of chargers that are solar powered) ...
 

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Fashion Island was free, but now they charge to charge. It has helped keep the charging locations more available. When an establishment has pay per hour charge station parking, the EV employee most likely will stop charging their car during the day. Companies need to have private free employee EV parking for those who require a charge during work and the pay locations for their customers. Maybe a compromise would be to have outlets for the employees so they don't show up on the charger networks and confuse the customers.

One treat for Tesla drivers is the Brea downtown lot. The charge cord is long enough at one station that a Model S driver does not have to back in. However, many times a Volt and Leaf are in both free charge locations, so don't count on getting a free charge during every visit.
 

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I ask if it is legal to travel in southern California ( I visited Los Angeles twice, and stayed a few days in El Segundo) with no plates on the car.
 

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That is cool. My local Whole Foods has two charging stations, and they used to be completely empty or ICE'd even as late as last summer. I was noticing yesterday that at least one of them seems to be in use every trip now. Of course, haven't seen a Tesla at them yet, but knowing Atlanta and East Cobb, it won't be long.
 

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It is kind of ridiculous for a giant shopping mall to have just two charging spots, and right at the entrance where they are most likely to get ICEd.
Think so? How about coming to Dallas/Ft.Worth. We have zero charging spots at every mall. Even the very up-scale Galleria Dallas has zero charging stations. The nearest one is nearly a mile away. Most other malls in the area don't have a charger anywhere within 5 miles. So just be glad there are two at this one.

I love hearing that EV charging spots are full. That is, assuming they are full with EVs charging and not with gasoline cars. That means eventually the charging companies will add more chargers, and more EVs will fill them, etc. Meaning we're on tack to replacing a significant portion of our ICE vehicles with electric.
 

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I like the way they handle chargers at the Mall of America in Minnesota.
Four chargers, 2 on each side if the mall. They are in the 3rd and 4th spots away from the mall walkway/doors, however, they are up on 4th floor.
Very rarely ICEd and the mall security does a good job of ticketing anyone in those spots that isn't plugged in (basic warnings only, no fine).
 

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... The Volt says to the Tesla:
"'Sup?"
The Tesla responds:
"Oh hai! Mind if I park in your spot while you're still there?"

It is kind of ridiculous for a giant shopping mall to have just two charging spots, and right at the entrance where they are most likely to get ICEd.
I live near the largest mall in the USA - King of Prussia Mall west of Philladelphia. It has two outdoor L2 plugs (free, which is nice). but they are as far away from the more busy portion of the mall, so if you want to go to the more ritzy-side of the mall, you have to walk maybe 1/2 mile from parking.
 

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My latest public charging attempt yesterday went bust. Was going to the Monster Jam show in Baltimore, and there was a free chargepoint station in the parking garage of the event building. When I pulled in, I saw there were 2 empty EV spots (woo!). Pulled into a spot, and tried using my chargepoint card:

Fail #1: My chargepoint card didn't work. I called chargepoint, and they said the card I had tried to use was disabled (wtf?). But they said they would be able to unlock the charger remotely (woo!).

Fail #2: After sending the remote command and hearing the unlock 'click', I try to remove the plug from the station, only to find it was still locked. I asked the rep to send the command again, hear another click, but no go. CP rep asks if I want to be given directions to another charging station, but I say no as I'm already on the hook for the $20 garage parking bill.

One of these days I'll have a successful public charging experience outside of Walgreens.

Oh, to top it off, after the event was over and I returned to my car, I saw that a Hyundai Sonata had ICE'd the other spot.
 

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Better than what we have hear in N. VA where most malls have 0 EV spots. Fair Oaks Mall, Potomac Mills, Dulles Town Center, Reston Town Center, Tysons I and Tysons II all have no charging stations.

I was at Fair Oaks yesterday and did try out the outlet near Macy's downstairs parking and was able to charge at L1. I noticed the outlet a few months ago, but this was the first time I was able to park close enough to try it out.
We do have the new Mosaic District with SEVEN L2 SemaCharge spots distributed between the two garages. And yes, the center's security people apparently patrol the spots for ICErs and leave them threatening notes.
 

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I live near the largest mall in the USA - King of Prussia Mall west of Philladelphia. It has two outdoor L2 plugs (free, which is nice). but they are as far away from the more busy portion of the mall, so if you want to go to the more ritzy-side of the mall, you have to walk maybe 1/2 mile from parking.
The funny thing is the KoP mall didn't install these SemaConnects, the IBEW Local 380 and NECA did. And since the mall is kinda large one has to walk regardless of where they park.
 

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We do have the new Mosaic District with SEVEN L2 SemaCharge spots distributed between the two garages. And yes, the center's security people apparently patrol the spots for ICErs and leave them threatening notes.
I love the Mosaic district. That's why I only go there to see a movie (oh and I love their Caramel Poporn!) It's good to know they are patrolling. I did see one of the chargers ICEd 2 weeks ago.

It is really a shame that even the upscale Tysons II does not have a charger. There are two fee based Chargepoints across Leesburg Pike from Tysons I. However, it is a bit of a hike.
 
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