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42% Of Brits Are Confused – Think Electric Cars Can’t Go In A Car Wash

Wow, what a snappy dresser!

  • 47% of people think that petrol or diesel cars accelerate faster than pure electric
  • 25% think EVs are more expensive to maintain
  • 42% of Brits aren’t sure if you can put a pure electric car through a car wash
  • 52% of Brits saying they wouldn’t be able to describe what an EV is to someone else

  1. Myth: Pure electric cars are slow.
  2. Myth: They’re too expensive.
  3. Myth: There aren’t enough public charge points.
  4. Myth: There are only a few of models to choose from.
  5. Myth: Pure electric cars are a technology for the future!

My answers to the myths - you have your own:

1. Sometimes but mostly electric cars are not slower than ICE.
2. Yes for some the price point is still too high. Don't start with the tax incentives - compare straight.
3. For people in condos/apartments where they're most needed that's absolutely true.
4. On my radar there are less than a few - don't know what the Brits have on theirs.
5. The technology we really need isn't here yet, but what I have now works fine.

The car wash thing is funny, even if the Inside EVs title takes the real story too far.
 

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That's not surprising given the British love of the manual transmission and diesel vehicles (I can back that up - I lived there for 3 years and am married to one!). One thing to remember though, is that they pay 3x what we pay on Vancouver Island for their electricity rates.
 

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I'm taking my Volt to New Hampshire this weekend. I'm going to have my mom drive it after I recharge from the 2,000 mile road trip - she's convinced EVs are slow.
 

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That's not surprising given the British love of the manual transmission and diesel vehicles (I can back that up - I lived there for 3 years and am married to one!). One thing to remember though, is that they pay 3x what we pay on Vancouver Island for their electricity rates.
It would seem that's not all they have difficulty paying for. Myth #2 stands as true apparently.

Study Says Cost Still A Big EV Deterrent In Europe
 

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It would seem that's not all they have difficulty paying for. Myth #2 stands as true apparently.

Study Says Cost Still A Big EV Deterrent In Europe
Imagine if they weren't so expensive. Then the waiting lists for the Golf GTE and NIssan Leaf. would be even longer, and there would have been even more people who'd reserved an Ampera-e who'd have been disappointed. And sales of plug-ins would been rising even faster than they are in a weak market.

A European Automobile Manufacturers’ Association study. What's their remedy, I wonder.

They only have 3 years before the tighter economy targets arrive so they have to start the lobbying now.

PS Year-on-year sales are up again in the EU as they have been for all but 2 months out of the past 3 years.
https://insideevs.com/european-plug-in-car-sales-increased-in-may-to-nearly-29000/
 

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lagagnon: If electric rates in the UK are 3 times the BC rate, that still makes it WAY, WAY cheaper than Petrol!
What is the cost of Petrol over there? CAD$5 a liter or is it more?

I am fortunate to have $0.08196 KwH electricity here in Manitoba. About $1.68 for a full charge of the battery. + tax of course.
 

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lagagnon: If electric rates in the UK are 3 times the BC rate, that still makes it WAY, WAY cheaper than Petrol!
What is the cost of Petrol over there? CAD$5 a liter or is it more?
CA$2.25, per litre or so. About US$1.70.
 

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not putting mine in an auto-car wash

Think there is a sign there that says ' any parts our robot grabs he gets to keep '
 

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lagagnon: If electric rates in the UK are 3 times the BC rate, that still makes it WAY, WAY cheaper than Petrol!
Absolutely, but when, as a nation the majority still think that manual transmissions on diesel vehicles are cool, it hardly bodes well for interest in EV's ;-)
 

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Absolutely, but when, as a nation the majority still think that manual transmissions on diesel vehicles are cool, it hardly bodes well for interest in EV's ;-)
Maybe. But the thing that makes diesels pleasant to drive is the large, flat torque curve, and the reason manual transmissions are better for spirited driving is the tighter control and more predictable response to throttle input. EVs have both of these, so if the reason they liked diesel manuals was driving related, they should love EVs once they get a fair trial.

They're also cheaper to run and cheaper to maintain, which are the other reasons I know of that one might choose a diesel manual over other cars...
 

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They're also cheaper to run and cheaper to maintain, which are the other reasons I know of that one might choose a diesel manual over other cars...
Don't forget the soothing clackety-clackety-clackety noise of diesel's in general...
 

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Don't forget the soothing clackety-clackety-clackety noise of diesel's in general...
I actually liked that with my diesel Jetta back in the day, the car's chant of leashed power - but I like Volt and Tesla silence better.
 

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Don't forget the soothing clackety-clackety-clackety noise of diesel's in general...
My brother-in-law had a small Datsun diesel car back in the day (late 80's?). I likened the sound to a duck picking frozen peas out of a tin can. Another brother-in-law had a 2000 VW turbo diesel. It was normal sounding as any other car.
 

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Carrying around Power Service white or silver for fill-ups, changing fuel filters every 15,000 miles and carrying a spare in case I got a tank of rot gut, carrying gloves to handle the diesel nozzle, etc.. Ah, the good old days.
 
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