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http://www.autoblog.com/2017/07/21/gm-may-kill-6-car-models-as-it-works-with-uaw-to-tackle-sales-sl/

Sounds like the Volt might not make next year, but still under consideration.

I was wondering if this might happen, the Volt goes from 2 ZEV credits down to 1 credit for 2018, and they seem to have to discount it significantly to get it to sell in the small volumes it does.

My opinion is it will be incredibly bad PR for GM to kill the Volt, even if it doesn't sell well. Drag it along until they release their Model 3 competitor. Killing the Volt without having an equivalent car to replace it with would make me get a Tesla. If they had a Voltec CUV I might not care.

Can we edit title to say Gen 3 instead of 2018, sounds like cancellation would be 2020
 

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Volt may not make 2018, facing possible cancellation

Doesn't say anything about 2018, does say that it might be gone by early 2020s. There probably will not be a generation three Volt.

Does everything have to be an SUV or a truck?

I can't see them killing off Voltec but I can see them using it in the larger vehicles which is what they ultimately need to do. I just hope that it does continue to exist in a larger sedan....this article might mean that they may have to have incentives as they did last summer with the 20% off to get rid of some of these vehicles....


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The story states:
GM is reviewing whether to cancel at least six passenger cars in the U.S. market after 2020, including the Chevrolet Volt hybrid, which could be replaced in 2022 with a new gasoline-electric crossover model, Reuters has learned from people familiar with the plans.

So it might happen after 2020, so there will be a 2018 model Volt. And the Volt could turn into a CUV Plug-in AFTER 2020.
 

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If you notice, I already have a comment in my post to change title to Gen 3 (from 2018), I can't seem to edit it. Either way, Volt is on the chopping block with an uncertain future.
 

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I agree, nothing certain and my guess Voltec continues on, but they have to be careful how they announce this, I would have other models out first, like a CUV and Malibu sedan or whatever they happen to be. They risk very bad PR.
 

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There's only so much GM can do to control how the press spins this.

A lot of stories will be written in the next few days on the Volt's impending demise. Expect to see examples at CleanTechnica and Electrek, as well as the typical anti-green car suspects.

In contrast, Green Car Reports has a nice, balanced view which is more "Good news! Sounds like the CrossVolt is coming."

http://www.greencarreports.com/news/1111214_chevy-volt-may-be-replaced-in-2022-with-plug-in-hybrid-crossover-crossvolt-at-last
 

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Glad to hear that. Cross volt would be great, but I can't see any SUV having the good ride and overall experience of the Gen 2 Volt.


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Thanks for that nicely written piece, I am imagining how electrek will spin this, probably something how about how evil GM is and how they are just selling them for ZEV credits/compliance, and GM wants all EVs to fail, etc :)
 

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I guess my next car will be a Tesla. I hate SUVs and crossovers, if that's what they are going to replace the Volt with then bye bye GM. I was hoping for a Gen3 Volt in 2020 but if they aren't going to build one then I'll get a Tesla, by 2020 Tesla should have their backlog on the Model 3 under control and hopefully they will have a longer range version by then.
 

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This actually doesn't surprise me. Once the Federal tax credits expire for GM there's no reason for GM to keep the Voltec drivetrain in a single model. GM has already put it into the Malibu Hybrid, which doesn't qualify for the credits because it's not a plug in hybrid. The rumored Cadillac SUV PHEV is also another sign that GM engineering and marketing are finally ready to take the Voltec drivetrain out of beta and into their mainstream vehicles.

Also, consider that while 2020 is a ways out GM has to look that far out in order to adjust their assembly plants and tool up for upcoming changes.
 

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If the Volt died and was replaced with a SUV plug-in EREV, I would not mind at all.

That or make the Volt a super niche product (Volt SS!)
 

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Note the reference to an electrified SUV. "GM is reviewing whether to cancel at least six passenger cars in the U.S. market after 2020, including the Chevrolet Volt hybrid, which could be replaced in 2022 with a new gasoline-electric crossover model, Reuters has learned from people familiar with the plans."

GM has dumped a lot of money into the Voltec powertrain, I can't see them walking away from it.
 

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doesn't surprise me. In general, car sales are down and SUV and truck sales are up. If gas prices remain low, it will stay that way.
On top of that, the Volt is a bit of an oddity. It's got the interior size (and classification) of a compact car, without the compact price. The reason people buy cars like the Corolla, Civic and Cruze is because they're cheap. Take away the lower price, and you lose the vast majority of the market.
Yes, everyone here knows that the long term cost is at least competitive, but the average American consumer has no concept of future cost. Plus many can't afford to finance the higher price.

If GM would follow Volvos lead (obviously not electrifying the entire line) and release a number of plug-in vehicles, I would be interested.
I just purchased a Nissan Pathfinder to replace my wife's Scion. With a child on the way and large dog, a compact car doesn't cut it.
 

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Chance of Volt getting nixed by 2020?

autoblog.com/2017/07/21/gm-may-kill-6-car-models-as-it-works-with-uaw-to-tackle-sales-sl

Saw this and jaw hit the floor....now autoblog is not mainstream news, but this was the first time that I have ever seen the words cancel and Volt in the same sentence.....

Sorry if you have to cut and paste, this site won't let me post a link because I only have 2 posts.... :(
 

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Doom and gloom.....
 

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Answer: make Malibu a plug in with a big battery
Note of optimism: Observed more new Volts and even a couple of new Bolts in the last week than all of prior 2017. It is way too early to say goodbye to Volt.
Theory: Added Chevy dealers that did not sell Volt, but signed up for Bolt EV, now sell Volt. My own dealer rep has sold Volts to walk-ins interested in Bolt EV. Synergy at work.
 

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The Volt is just too small of a car for us, but it is the best extended range vehicle on the planet that is affordable, so we'll have to suck up the inconvenience of a small car.

Ideally, the height and layout of the Bolt is excellent for us, too bad it isn't an extended range vehicle.

We aren't buying any pure EV's such as the Tesla and the Bolt, no matter if they're going to have a 500-mile range. I need an extended range vehicle that is bigger than the Volt.
 

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If it's happening in 2020 gm is already well on the way to building it. When I worked in the auto industry they were planning 5 years out since it takes so long to make prototypes and then to tool up production. I think a little suv would sell well for them, but to get the same ranges it's going to be a lot bigger battery. Especially for climates like Colorado where it gets cold and ev range drops dramatically.
 
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