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Saw that......am I'm glad there isn't a lot of changes since I've only had my 2017 for a few weeks!!! Hate it when you buy, only to find out that a much better upgrade is coming only a few months later!
 

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Saw that......am I'm glad there isn't a lot of changes since I've only had my 2017 for a few weeks!!! Hate it when you buy, only to find out that a much better upgrade is coming only a few months later!
Yeah. Mine is a few months old, so no buyer's remorse for me. Ha ha!

I might buy the 2019 IF the EV Range is at least 75 miles. And if the EV Range of the Volt is 100 miles, I won't be buying any pure EV such as the Bolt or the Tesla. I hope they'll have Voltec on SUV's or CUV's or pick-up trucks!
 

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This was all we could decode from the ordering guide...GCR also missed that we'll get an apparent non-jeweled shift knob...

It was also noted that they lowered the weight so it's possible with some other software tweaks maybe they could get another mile or two of epa range...But even if that's the case, like the MY15, perhaps GM will keep the EPA numbers the same as the previous year...
 

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Saw that......am I'm glad there isn't a lot of changes since I've only had my 2017 for a few weeks!!! Hate it when you buy, only to find out that a much better upgrade is coming only a few months later!
REALLY!! When I bought my VOLT, ACC was talked about but you couldn't order it. My 2017 car was built May 15th, 2016 and I picked it up Jun 10, 2016. It wasn't more than a day when VOLT with ACC was showing up at the dealers for PreOrders... Then the owners of new VOLTS came on the forum saying how they couldn't live without it...... Wow!! Now that i am in, I won't change but that is a toy that my next car will have.
 

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ACC is one of the features I use and enjoy the most on my 2017 Volt Premier. Well worth the extra cost.
 

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... Now that i am in, I won't change but that is a toy that my next car will have.
No toy. I've used ACC for the past 10 years and I absolutely won't buy a car without it. If the Volt didn't have it, it would be a deal breaker. I believe it is the single best safety feature on any car today (and the crux of automated driving systems that ultimately reduce traffic fatalities).
 

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I wonder if the color changes are just name changes to the existing colors and n real change in the colors a all.
 

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Yeah. Mine is a few months old, so no buyer's remorse for me. Ha ha!

I might buy the 2019 IF the EV Range is at least 75 miles. And if the EV Range of the Volt is 100 miles, I won't be buying any pure EV such as the Bolt or the Tesla. I hope they'll have Voltec on SUV's or CUV's or pick-up trucks!
Not Going To Happen without a generation redesign. The same-gen battery increases we've seen before were on the order of 5%, not 40%. And you're already running up against the point where vanishingly few people would even see an actual gain on a daily basis. I and 95% of the population drive fewer than about 50 miles on a typical day. A 75 mile Volt wouldn't gain us much of anything, and we will be unhappy about paying for it.
 

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Not Going To Happen without a generation redesign. The same-gen battery increases we've seen before were on the order of 5%, not 40%. And you're already running up against the point where vanishingly few people would even see an actual gain on a daily basis. I and 95% of the population drive fewer than about 50 miles on a typical day. A 75 mile Volt wouldn't gain us much of anything, and we will be unhappy about paying for it.
I basically agree, the next step should be getting the MSRP down in anticipation of the tax credit sun setting...The Volt has had major incentives which certainly could be scaled back, but we'll unfortunately most likely continue to see "17% off 2017 models" and "$3000 off lease conquests"...
 

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I basically agree, the next step should be getting the MSRP down in anticipation of the tax credit sun setting...The Volt has had major incentives which certainly could be scaled back, but we'll unfortunately most likely continue to see "17% off 2017 models" and "$3000 off lease conquests"...
I just checked Chevrolet.com, I did not see anywhere 17% off for a 2017 Volt.
 

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I just checked Chevrolet.com, I did not see anywhere 17% off for a 2017 Volt.
Just wait until 2018 models arrive and as the competition heats of with bolt and model 3 numbers hitting the streets. The only thing that will keep prices of volts up is if we get a huge price hike in gasoline thus causing a shortage of supply across the board. But if that doesn't happen, dealerhips with remaining 2017 inventory in 2018 will be able to apply huge GM manufacturers rebates to get the cars moving off the lots. I'm hoping for the same thing to happen to the CT6 PHEV and maybe pick one up approaching half price. It happened with the g1 volt, it happened with the 2014 ELR, here's hoping it happens again.
 

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--- X CUT X --- I'm hoping for the same thing to happen to the CT6 PHEV and maybe pick one up approaching half price. It happened with the g1 volt, it happened with the 2014 ELR, here's hoping it happens again.
Just remember, GM likes to cut anything that doesn't make tons of money. Now that the BOLT is out and receiving VERY VERY GOOD REVIEWS, that puts the VOLT and the excessively expensive Caddillac CT6 very near the chopping block.

I wouldn't put it past GM to just not make any improvement at all on the Chev or Cad version simply siting costs.


Stolen VOLT pursuit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fp2TGpE7gLs

2017 Chevrolet VOLT crash test VIDEO
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8ia_MPTQrc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kv4_uqHM-gg


2017 Chevrolet VOLT crash test 160915
http://www.greencarreports.com/news/1106124_iihs-names-2017-chevrolet-volt-a-top-safety-pick

Chevrolet Volt goes into production
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Xz3iPmmbGo

Chevrolet Volt - Hamtramck Assembly Plant - Detroit
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I just checked Chevrolet.com, I did not see anywhere 17% off for a 2017 Volt.
Incentives change month to month, last year July was the model year clearance with 20% off of on purchases only...
 

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Just remember, GM likes to cut anything that doesn't make tons of money. Now that the BOLT is out and receiving VERY VERY GOOD REVIEWS, that puts the VOLT and the excessively expensive Caddillac CT6 very near the chopping block.

I wouldn't put it past GM to just not make any improvement at all on the Chev or Cad version simply siting costs.
Actually, Volt sales are doing very well compared to last year. It almost seems as if people are going into showrooms to look at the Bolt, discovering that the Volt is an electric car with unlimited range, and buying it.
 

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Actually, Volt sales are doing very well compared to last year. It almost seems as if people are going into showrooms to look at the Bolt, discovering that the Volt is an electric car with unlimited range, and buying it.
Last year was the top year for Volt sales but not by much for 2012 and 2013 which can also be attributed to aggressive incentives including the advertised "$0 down $199/mo for 24 leases" and the $5K MSRP haircut...Big sales decline for 2014 & 2015...

Very few go to the dealer preferring either the Bolt EV or the Volt and end up buying the other...I'm sure there are a handful of defectors who simply don't like the Bolts seat or less luxurious interior...They're two different types of buyers and almost everyone does ample online research...
 

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Not Going To Happen without a generation redesign. The same-gen battery increases we've seen before were on the order of 5%, not 40%. And you're already running up against the point where vanishingly few people would even see an actual gain on a daily basis. I and 95% of the population drive fewer than about 50 miles on a typical day. A 75 mile Volt wouldn't gain us much of anything, and we will be unhappy about paying for it.
I wouldn't completely discount the idea of a 100 mile EV Volt. Let's keep in mind that during the colder months the EV range can almost be halved so us colder dwellers would certainly see a benefit. Granted, it's not going to happen for the 2019 model and I agree it would require a redesign but believe it's more feasible to see that type of Volt tech combination in the Malibu. Well, at least one could hope that happens at some point. ;)
 

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Something that was corrected was that the ordering guide showed that the Bose system was standard but GM stated that was an error...I wouldn't count on there being other errors yet I wouldn't take a Vegas bet that there won't be more errors...

I wouldn't completely discount the idea of a 100 mile EV Volt. Let's keep in mind that during the colder months the EV range can almost be halved so us colder dwellers would certainly see a benefit. Granted, it's not going to happen for the 2019 model and I agree it would require a redesign but believe it's more feasible to see that type of Volt tech combination in the Malibu. Well, at least one could hope that happens at some point. ;)
Because of the way 2018 ZEV credits work, 200 miles of range is the only number that makes sense...A 100 mile range BEV Volt makes little sense since GM did sell the Spark EV...The counter argument is that the federal tax credit is going away so if there are incremental improvements that can be made to say the battery, it would be better to keep the range the same but to lower the MSRP...

I want to believe the MY18 Volt will get a price reduction and that's why they didn't increase the range but who knows...
 

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2018 might change before release, it could still be 6 months before you can take delivery

Also I doubt we will see a 100 mile Volt ev range.

GM has the Bolt and Volt mainly for regulatory compliance, and if EVs or PHEVs go mainstream, I think short range PHEVs will be added to GMs shed with a couple halo vehicles.

Think 15 mile range Malibu hybrid.

My hope was that GM would recognize the appeal of actual gas MPGs and the terror of winter driving the Volt and add the Malibu exhaust gas heat recovery system.

In poor weather even with the gas pig humming I sometimes can't fully clear the windshield of ICE
I think that is more important than a small increase in EV range, though I wouldn't complain
 

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Something that was corrected was that the ordering guide showed that the Bose system was standard but GM stated that was an error...I wouldn't count on there being other errors yet I wouldn't take a Vegas bet that there won't be more errors...



Because of the way 2018 ZEV credits work, 200 miles of range is the only number that makes sense...A 100 mile range BEV Volt makes little sense since GM did sell the Spark EV...The counter argument is that the federal tax credit is going away so if there are incremental improvements that can be made to say the battery, it would be better to keep the range the same but to lower the MSRP...

I want to believe the MY18 Volt will get a price reduction and that's why they didn't increase the range but who knows...
Isn't the Volt technically a PHEV? I'm not sure that matters or it's just splitting hairs but wanted to mention it either way. Unfortunately, regulations and politics play a role in just about everything but I'm still hopefully GM will continue to improve the EV range of the Volt. It may not reach 100 miles but incremental improvements would be welcome too.
 
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