[Neromanceres]

2018 Bolt EV US order guide is now available. Not many changes except for a new option for an automatic heated steering wheel (I would imagine it would work the same as the auto heated seats). And in the US Onstar's full package is free for 4 years.

Click the link below. Select Print Model and then select print and it will generate a PDF of the order guide.
https://www.gmfleetorderguide.com/N...egionID=1&lang=1&divisionID=1&vehicleID=21412

 

[jeff_h]

I checked for the 2 items I wish I had on my 2017...

Adaptive Cruise - not listed

Power Seats - not listed

 

[Sean Nelson]

Exactly what I've been waiting for - thanks!!!

 

[somms]

2018 Online Order / Reference Guide

FWIW: Alternate link above then click on 'New for 2018' button to reveal no significant change other than the auto heated steering wheel between 2017 & 2018 MY Bolts!

 

[Ziv]

Well, we HAVE been waiting for a BEV pickup, and it looks like Chevy is releasing a Chevy Truck Bolt EV late this year! LOL!
Seriously, though, given the fact that it is a very compact Chevy, and given the rep that Chevy compacts have, the only way they are going to sell many Bolts is to promote it more and reduce the MSRP to get people onto the lot to look at it and drive it. I don't see GM reducing the price nor do I see them promoting it effectively. The Bolt looks like a clown car in some ways, and it isn't going to sell in large numbers. Too bad, it is a solid, roomy car that deserves better. If you look at a Bolt and a Buick Encore from the side the silhouettes aren't completely dissimilar. GM could have made the Bolt look better with a few design cue changes.

2018 Online Order / Reference Guide

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[TheBlueFlash]

So the 2nd gen Leaf while having less range (initially), will have a cheaper price tag, propilot semi-autonomous driving tech, and power seats. I suspect folks that are cross shopping between the two will gravitate towards the Leaf if range isn't the primary concern. If range is the primary concern, then you could wait until later next year when Nissan releases the 60kwh pack that will be good for 225mi.

I love my Volts, but GM is getting left behind in regard to driver assistance technology. I hate to say it, but the Leaf wasn't on my radar before, now it is.

 

[Steverino]

I prefer the lack of an aggressive battery thermal management system in a Leaf. Who needs a long lasting battery when I can save some money instead? And then there is the way Nissan handled resulting battery degradation...by denying it. That's the kind of company I want to buy a car from.

 

[TheBlueFlash]

I prefer the lack of an aggressive battery thermal management system in a Leaf. Who needs a long lasting battery when I can save some money instead? And then there is the way Nissan handled resulting battery degradation...by denying it. That's the kind of company I want to buy a car from.

Steverino, you go after Nissan like Bro goes after Tesla! I leased a 2015 Leaf that had their upgraded battery cell chemistry for 3 years and never experienced any noticeable degradation. Although I lived in east Tennessee at the time, so the mild climate probably didn't tax the battery at all. I live in western North Carolina now and it is basically the same climate, so I doubt the climate here would tax the new Leaf battery either. Nissan has said the Leaf 2.0 battery chemistry has changed again to make it even more robust than before.

From their official press release...
"Another key engineering improvement for the lithium-ion battery pack is the use of enhanced electrode materials with revised chemistry, resulting in higher power density while contributing to greater battery durability upon charge and discharge."

 

[Steverino]

Steverino, you go after Nissan like Bro goes after Tesla!

lol, yes, based on how Nissan handled the battery degradation issue and based on their less than robust battery cooling. More robust than not very robust is an improvement of some degree, sure. I had a Nissan when they were called Datsun. To me, it doesn't look like they have changed much over the years. I also avoid Dodge/Chrysler due to reliability issues with several company cars I drove.

 

[TheBlueFlash]

lol, yes, based on how Nissan handled the battery degradation issue and based on their less than robust battery cooling. More robust than not very robust is an improvement of some degree, sure. I had a Nissan when they were called Datsun. To me, it doesn't look like they have changed much over the years. I also avoid Dodge/Chrysler due to reliability issues with several company cars I drove.

I agree with the Dodge/Chrysler/Jeep sentiment. The Pacifica PHEV is very appealing to me, but because it's a Chrysler I'm terrified of the future mess. Dodge/Chrysler/Jeeps are frequently on top 10 worst reliability lists. That very early recall of the Pacifica PHEV doesn't help the image either.

 

[Sean Nelson]

I agree with the Dodge/Chrysler/Jeep sentiment. The Pacifica PHEV is very appealing to me, but because it's a Chrysler I'm terrified of the future mess. Dodge/Chrysler/Jeeps are frequently on top 10 worst reliability lists. That very early recall of the Pacifica PHEV doesn't help the image either.

I've been very interested in the Pacifica Hybrid too. I was able to take it for a test drive at the auto show and was quite impressed.

The first Consumer Reports reliability survey results are in for the Pacifica and apparently it's doing fairly well for a Chrysler product, especially an all-new from-the-ground-up one. It's rated at "average", and is one of the things that helped Chrysler jump up 10 spots (from 27 to 17) in CR's ranking of overall manufacturer reliability.

I have a 1993 Dodge Caravan. It was not rated as being particularly reliable back in its day, and the transmission in particular was a weak point. So when I bought it I opted for the 7-year powertrain warranty instead of the 3-year bumper-to-bumper protection. The transmission needed warranty repair in the 6th year and has been solid ever since. As you'd expect I've had to fix number of issues over its 24-year life, but it still drives like it was new and I'm very happy with it.

 

[DonC]

Steverino, you go after Nissan like Bro goes after Tesla!

Having leased a Leaf I think he's amazingly restrained. While you may not have seen any battery degradation I saw a huge amount. Moreover the Leaf was so badly built that I would never ever look at another Nissan, which isn't hard for me to say since my wife would have me committed if I did. She hated the car more than I did because it was such a substandard vehicle. Nissan specializes in making a car that looks good but has the worst build quality imaginable. Things weren't helped by what was a horrible dealer experience, and this was from a leading Nissan dealer which moved a lot of Leafs.

So I'd always expect a Leaf to be lower priced and lower quality. That's what Nissan does.

 

[TheBlueFlash]

Having leased a Leaf I think he's amazingly restrained. While you may not have seen any battery degradation I saw a huge amount. Moreover the Leaf was so badly built that I would never ever look at another Nissan, which isn't hard for me to say since my wife would have me committed if I did. She hated the car more than I did because it was such a substandard vehicle. Nissan specializes in making a car that looks good but has the worst build quality imaginable. Things weren't helped by what was a horrible dealer experience, and this was from a leading Nissan dealer which moved a lot of Leafs.

So I'd always expect a Leaf to be lower priced and lower quality. That's what Nissan does.

I agree with the dealership sentiment, the Nissan dealer I dealt with was pretty lousy and knew nothing about the Leaf. After they pushed back on me when I declined a $50 oil change, I never went back. I never found another Nissan dealer that really seemed to know what they were doing in regards to the Leaf. Luckily, I never had any issues in the three years of ownership with it other than a blown tire which I didn't have to go to a dealer for, just went to a Discount Tire. No other maintenance to speak of.

Maybe you had an earlier model, but the 2015 I had gave me no problems and I felt the quality and fit and finish to be just fine.