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I was initially in the market for a used Prius and then realized that the Chevy Volt is eligible for $10K in tax credits (im in Mass).

I see a new Volt for around $25K after dealer discounts which is enticing, given the tax credits.

Question--is $25K out the door bottom of the barrel for a new Volt? I'd like to find it lower --(maybe low $20's is possible)---is this doable?
 

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They were giving pretty big discounts in Dec I think. I don't think 10% off MSRP (or even more) would be out of the question. Maybe reach out to several dealers.
 

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I have noticed that some dealers will quote the sales price of the Volt applying the tax credit. I would question a $25k price new for a 2017.
 

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Pretty sure it's for real. All part of a group buying effort (drive green) in MA and other states to get people to buy EV's.
 

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I was initially in the market for a used Prius and then realized that the Chevy Volt is eligible for $10K in tax credits (im in Mass).

I see a new Volt for around $25K after dealer discounts which is enticing, given the tax credits.

Question--is $25K out the door bottom of the barrel for a new Volt? I'd like to find it lower --(maybe low $20's is possible)---is this doable?
The dealer is likely including the tax credit in the advertised price.
 

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i'm new so can't post a link --look up drive green, mass energy

There is a group rebate of $7500 plus $1500 in dealer rebates for a total discount of $9000

Total Price on Car $25,555
 

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i'm new so can't post a link --look up drive green, mass energy

There is a group rebate of $7500 plus $1500 in dealer rebates for a total discount of $9000

Total Price on Car $25,555
I don't doubt at all that you qualify for 10k in rebates/incentives...what I truly doubt though it that a NEW 2017 is listed for 25k that doesn't include this amount. Call them and verify. MANY dealers include the tax credit and that is deceptive advertising as it is NOT disclosed unless asked.
 

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i'm new so can't post a link --look up drive green, mass energy

There is a group rebate of $7500 plus $1500 in dealer rebates for a total discount of $9000

Total Price on Car $25,555
http://cdn2.hubspot.net/hubfs/260434/drivegreen/PDF/Drive Green with Mass Energy Chevrolet Volt LT.pdf

Quirk Chevrolet
Quincy, MA
$34,555
Destination Fee, Comfort Package
-$7,500 (Drive Green Discount)
$27,055 (after discount)
-$2,500 (state incentive)
-$7,500 (fed tax)
$17,055 (final price)??????

There are five dealers apparently participating in the program, 3 are offering $2000-$3000 discounts and 2 $7000+ off...That's the headscratcher of why the vastly different discounts...But what the heck, if you want a Volt and live in mass, definitely worth looking in to if you can get a LT plus comfort for $17,055 total...
 

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that's all I needed to see. I ended up buying at quirk, and not a single number on the bill of sale looked anything like the numbers that they had been tossing back and forth, except the bottom line. they applied several crypticly described credits that made no sense to me, In then end they appeared to qualify me for several discounts that I have no idea where they came from. (employee, supplier, politician, deceased, blind, etc) I would not likely go back, I walked out feeling like I needed a shower....
 

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that's all I needed to see. I ended up buying at quirk, and not a single number on the bill of sale looked anything like the numbers that they had been tossing back and forth, except the bottom line. they applied several crypticly described credits that made no sense to me, In then end they appeared to qualify me for several discounts that I have no idea where they came from. (employee, supplier, politician, deceased, blind, etc) I would not likely go back, I walked out feeling like I needed a shower....
You got a good price, right? Others have said they're shady as well mainly due deceptive advertising...I have no idea what this program actually is...If I were in Mass I'd at least check it out the lower drive green (Quick) offer and walk away if I didn't like it...Should be pretty simple, send an email "If you can sell this car through the green drive program for $17XXX I'll be down today" See what they say at least you have a written copy...While I'd prefer to deal with honest no nonsense dealers, I have no problem doing business with the slimy ones as long I get the best deal...No matter how honest one thinks the salesman/sales manager is, always double check the paperwork... :)
 

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I purchased 5 cars from the Quirk family and have always gotten the advertised deal and sometimes better. They've been running this Volt deal since at least last April when I signed a lease for a different car. Hopefully a similar deal will be available when my lease ends next year.

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interesting you should say that--because I just had a horrendous experience at a different Quirk dealership. I have also been reading a bunch of reviews on this particular dealership and they are just like you say. BUT, question--did you end up paying what they quoted you? In my mind--if I have the expectation that the process will be a nightmare--but I end up with a price, it's almost worth the tradeoff (IMO). Note also there are other dealers involved offering a 'Green' Rebate--and are only slightly higher than Quirk.
 

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There are two ways to get a great deal on a NEW Volt. (1) drive to a remote dealership that has a low-VIN Volt (HU120XXX or earlier) and negotiate down; or (2) jump through hoops at these high-volume dealerships that will cut a smart buyer a "deal" knowing they'll make up the difference with a not-so-smart buyer later that day or night. (this assumes you don't have GM employee pricing, or some other worthwhile discount).

I did #1 for my NEW '13 Volt and got 14K off MSRP (BEFORE the federal tax credit). I drove to a remote part of Maryland that was in the middle of coal-rolling truck country. They knew they weren't going to sell that Volt and it had been sitting around a while. It was also the LAST day of the month.

I would defer to those with experiences in #2 on whether that's better. 2 hour drive...or 2 hour of hassle? It's probably a wash either way.
 

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interesting you should say that--because I just had a horrendous experience at a different Quirk dealership. I have also been reading a bunch of reviews on this particular dealership and they are just like you say. BUT, question--did you end up paying what they quoted you? In my mind--if I have the expectation that the process will be a nightmare--but I end up with a price, it's almost worth the tradeoff (IMO). Note also there are other dealers involved offering a 'Green' Rebate--and are only slightly higher than Quirk.
I had a bad experience at one of their NH dealers. I got the advertised prices but had to work for them in MA. 2 VWs, 1 Ford, 2 Kias. I got a great lease deal on my Optima hybrid because I leased two cars the same day.

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I'm skeptical about the price as well. You could get $3k off MSRP without an issue. Likely $4K in some cases. But $10K is stretching it. That's before federal and state credits/rebates. Most used cars are not great, so, whatever you decide to buy, you have a far better chance of getting a good copy if you buy new.
 

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> I purchased 5 cars from the Quirk family and have always gotten the advertised deal and sometimes better.

Without having seen the Mass Energy pricing, I purchased a Volt from Lannan in November with comfort pkg. and extra cost paint for less than their Mass Energy "Dealer Price after Discount" that doesn't include those options. I'd seen Quirk's pricing online, but after reading many Yelp reviews saying that their pricing is just to get you in the showroom, I didn't even call them. Next time I'll likely call, but there's also another recent thread here about Quirk's pricing with negative comments, "2017 Volts discounted $7000-Quirk Chevy in MA Tweet," so perhaps the name Quirk fits.

If anyone actually got the $135/mo. lease rate please post.
 

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I have noticed that some dealers will quote the sales price of the Volt applying the tax credit. I would question a $25k price new for a 2017.
This. You're certainly not going to get a base Volt at $33k MSRP discounted to "low 20's" before tax credits. You can get $5k off pretty easily, and maybe they stretched to $7k without the tax credit being factored in, but it seems doubtful.

Tread carefully and don't try to be too greedy. Purchase price is one factor, cost of ownership is another. The Volt saves on the second one in many ways over comparable cars given its additional electric range. Fewer oil changes, less brake replacement, less gas purchased, etc.

According to the link below though, the math seems legit. But the program ends in February. I'd get on this, it's a steal.
http://cdn2.hubspot.net/hubfs/260434/drivegreen/PDF/Drive Green with Mass Energy Chevrolet Volt LT.pdf
 

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I leased my 2017 Volt LT from Quirk. I wasn't able to get the advertised deal, since it required being a current GM lessee or having a trade-in or something else in the fine print. However the deal I did get ($220 a month for a $0 down, 12k miles per year, 36 month lease) was practically HALF of what the other local dealers wanted. And leases are still eligible for the $2500 state rebate, so my 1st year of payments is essentially free.
 
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