I think they're great tires. The same Energy Saver A/S that my 16 Volt came with also came on my 13 Volt. I have 45k miles on those and they're barely half worn. They're quiet, LRR, and last a long time. My kid did take one of the Leaf tires out on a curb, but it would have ruined the sidewall in any tire. Don't listen to people say they get flats- road hazard will take out any brand tire- and curbs are ALWAYS user error.