[Eddycurrent]

There is a 2014 volt leather interior with 29000km at a North bay chev dealership. Asking price $20,000 Cdn. The add also says that all brake rotors replaced and wheels balanced. Its also gm certified.Is this a good price and why would brakes need replacing so soon . i thought the regen means you barely use the brakes .

 

[Fyodor]

There is a 2014 volt leather interior with 29000km at a North bay chev dealership. Asking price $20,000 Cdn. The add also says that all brake rotors replaced and wheels balanced. Its also gm certified.Is this a good price and why would brakes need replacing so soon . i thought the regen means you barely use the brakes .

I can't comment on the price, except to say that it was probably north of $40,000 new.

The brake rotors are a mystery, I might guess that the calipers were not serviced, seized, and damaged the rotors. My rotors look like new but I have had preventative (and expensive) service done on the calipers every two years.

Just a thought - look at the rotors and if they look, as mine do, like compact discs. Possibly the dealer mistook them for replacements. It could also be that the service department just wanted to make some money. They should be nitride treated rotors and not showing any rust.

( You might be interested in the current 'FNC' thread.)

 

[edk-austin]

I've got a 2014 with almost identical miles, mine still look new. No brake servicing, other than dealer inspection.

 

[Henry_FL]

The add also says that all brake rotors replaced ... why would brakes need replacing so soon

You live in the snow country, which uses salt for the roads.

 

[canehdian]

You live in the snow country, which uses salt for the roads.

Which has no impact on the rotors. They should not rust under any normal driving or weather situation. Only when replaced with different parts than original, or if they have been resurfaced, will they rust.

It does, however, mean the calipers need to be serviced (clean out the crap, lube) regularly to prevent seizing, as mentioned above. If they stick and drag on the rotors, they would need to replace all brake components, especially rotors.

 

[Fyodor]

You live in the snow country, which uses salt for the roads.

In the cold parts of the country they do not use any salt, since it does no good below a certain temperature. In Florida, or anywhere near a sea coast, there can be salt in the air all year around. There were many times in Nova Scotia, especially after a storm, when I had to rinse salt off my car.

In any case, the OEM rotors should not rust, at least not yet.

 

[Coppersnowboarder]

If you have the money, then buy it. If you have more money, buy a Certified 2016 Volt.

 

[Crimson Volt]

I agree. Or get a base 2017.

 

[madmike]

Price seems a bit high, I'd check autotrader to see what is reasonable. I love my '14 and have no desire to upgrade, but that is just me.

 

[Eddycurrent]

Thanks for everyone's thoughts. To give you all a better understanding of my situation I will explain. Really cant afford a new volt and the added EV range of the Gen 2 is not an issue for me. My main concern is not to buy a piece of junk as my present car a 2008 mini clubman non turbo spends more time on the hoist than on the road. Like to trade it in on a gen 1 volt at the dealer. Hopefully get the extended warranty. If anyone on this forum is in the Toronto area I would like to get together with you over a coffee and talk everything volt so I can make an informed choice.

 

[canehdian]

I'm not in Toronto much, but there are other members here who would probably be happy to meet and walk you through the volt.
There is also a meetup section for events, but I don't know if there's a TO group.

Price seems a bit high, I'd check autotrader to see what is reasonable.

No, it's a very good price for our market. Resale value is good here, not like in the states. Most others listed in this range are $23-25, and higher mileage, or base.
If it checks out and has no incidents on record (collision, flood, etc) then I would go for it.
2014s are the happy medium between most bugs worked out and old enough to be affordable.
I think the price is just lower because it's North Bay and not as large a market - slower sales and they want it gone.

 

[Fyodor]

No, it's a very good price for our market. Resale value is good here, not like in the states. Most others listed in this range are $23-25, and higher mileage, or base.
If it checks out and has no incidents on record (collision, flood, etc) then I would go for it.
2014s are the happy medium between most bugs worked out and old enough to be affordable.
I think the price is just lower because it's North Bay and not as large a market - slower sales and they want it gone.

( to the OP: ) I checked the car on-line and have to concur - from this distance it seems like a good buy. It has rear parking assist and a camera, which I consider essential. Make the trip to North Bay if you are interested, but call ahead to make sure it is fully charged. Be aware that this is the time of year when battery range takes a dive. You should get an easy 60+ in moderate temperatures, but maybe as low as 40 in the cold. Actual battery degradation is not a real worry with the Volt.

Things to take note of: only the rear rotors have been replaced. That would seem to indicate that they did seize up at some point. Ideally they would have been replaced with the nitrided OEM spec rotors but if that is important to you, (it wouldn't be a deal breaker for me.) ask.

The only problem I have had that was due to salt was with the wheel nuts. They corroded under the caps, distorted, and cost me $11 x 16 to replace.

Make sure it comes with the EVSE / charge cord. It's normally stowed beneath the trunk floor and might be missed at first glance.

Read the disclaimer carefully, especially regarding the Sirius radio. Again, not a deal breaker with me. I used mine for a total of about 5 minutes. The original warranty only goes to February, but you might be able to extend it at a price. Voltec warranty lasts for years.

Feel free to PM me if you like. When I'm in Toronto proper I'm usually on a mission, but more flexible out here in the West.

 

[turboguy327]

Which has no impact on the rotors. They should not rust under any normal driving or weather situation. Only when replaced with different parts than original, or if they have been resurfaced, will they rust.

It does, however, mean the calipers need to be serviced (clean out the crap, lube) regularly to prevent seizing, as mentioned above. If they stick and drag on the rotors, they would need to replace all brake components, especially rotors.

Not true at all. Brake rotors rust. OEM or not. Resurfaced or not. The brake pads are always resurfacing the rotors. What do you think friction does?

 

[Fyodor]

Not true at all. Brake rotors rust. OEM or not. Resurfaced or not. The brake pads are always resurfacing the rotors. What do you think friction does?

I guess then that my pads have never contacted the rotors in almost five years of driving. Come round and have a look. Or have a look at:

http://www.acdelcotechconnect.com/pdf/MarApr_2012_TechCONNECT_R1.pdf

 

[turboguy327]

I guess then that my pads have never contacted the rotors in almost five years of driving. Come round and have a look. Or have a look at:

http://www.acdelcotechconnect.com/pdf/MarApr_2012_TechCONNECT_R1.pdf

The pads ride the rotors. My volt has OE rotors and rust forms on them after sitting a couple days. It's steel. It happens. I don't care what the little page says. Driving it every day or every other day stops rust. If the car sits a week or so and it's humid or rainy the rotors will form rust.

 

[canehdian]

Stainless steel also rusts a small amount given enough time and the worst conditions, but is also generally accepted as 'rust free' by anyone out there. Or do you also go around telling people that's not correct either?

If you want to get down to semantics, sure, they rust. At an extremely slow rate and with microscopic amounts.
A standard rotor can fully rust over in hours, an FNC one will take weeks/months/years, if it even gets to that point.
In my world (the real world), this equates to no rust build up on a vehicle that is actually used once in a blue moon. It should never be noticeable from a distance, as it is on a standard rotor. It should look shiny/dark.

You'd have to be parked an exceptionally long time in the worst of conditions to get to this level, which is only a couple hours on any other rotor after some rain:

 

[Fyodor]

The pads ride the rotors. My volt has OE rotors and rust forms on them after sitting a couple days. It's steel. It happens. I don't care what the little page says. Driving it every day or every other day stops rust. If the car sits a week or so and it's humid or rainy the rotors will form rust.

I'm just across the lake, so ny rotors are subject to the same climate conditions as yours, yet they are not rusty. Perhaps your rotors are different, or you have worn through the treated surface. I'd post a picture but I have my steel rims on. Pads do ride the rotors, but very lightly, and not even enough to generate any noticeable heat or wear.

 

[turboguy327]

If my car sits for a few days I can hear rust on the rotors as the car moves. I'm not going to argue. I actually work on vehicles. I don't just read pamphlets that GM releases to sway customers.

 

[Fyodor]

If my car sits for a few days I can hear rust on the rotors as the car moves. I'm not going to argue. I actually work on vehicles. I don't just read pamphlets that GM releases to sway customers.

And I've been working on my vehicles since about 1968 - since before most vehicles had brake rotors. I've done countless brake shoe, pad and rotor replacements. Your assumptions about me are wrong. My eyes have not failed me. This is the only one I've had that did not have rust on the rotors at any time. There is a real difference.

 

[hellsop]

No, it's a very good price for our market. Resale value is good here, not like in the states. Most others listed in this range are $23-25, and higher mileage, or base.

Plus, there's the whole "different dollar" thing. What are we these days, about USD0.75 for CAD1.00 or something? I know it was even worse last winter. The Geek started planning trips for us, then it went back up enough to take the shine off a summer road trip to GTA.