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2014 Reverse = Neutral? Need your help please!

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When I shift my 2014 Volt into “reverse,” it just rolls forward in my driveway, like it is in neutral. Same thing if I put it in “drive.” It acts like it is in neutral and rolls.

It doesn’t have enough miles for the transmission to be out. When I first turn on the car, a design keeps circling while the screen says “initializing.” That never happened before. It feels like it’s re-booting. Then eventually the normal screen appears.

I don’t live near the dealer. Can my regular mechanic look at it? I’ve never had a problem with my 2014 Volt. It gets regular maintenance at the dealership, but there has been a problem. I bought this car new in 2014. What could it be??? Thank you!
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Hello DogMom. It's nice to see your posts again! With older Volts, it's always good to test the 12 Volt battery when crazy things happen to the car. I replaced mine in September, 2020, even though the original in my 2014 still "cranked" the car. I was having a very occasional glitch with my displays and didn't want to risk a failure on my cross-country trips.
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Thanks, Jon! My friend just used a tester gizmo on the car and got two error codes, Do you (or anyone) know what these mean?
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Well, my friend just got a third error code. Since I have never changed my 12-Volt battery, I’m heading out now to get one. Here is the third error code.
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Good to see a familiar name, +1 for the 12V battery replacement with an AGM battery
Good to see a familiar name, +1 for the 12V battery replacement with an AGM battery
I hope that’s all it is!! I’m worried it could be the ion Lithium big battery! 😬
Good to see a familiar name, +1 for the 12V battery replacement with an AGM battery
What’s an AGM battery? Have many of us had to replace the ion Lithium battery yet? Does anyone know how much those are, when the time comes? My car is a 2014. It’s never had any issues until now. Just regular maintenance stuff.
Here are the important things you need to know about AGM batteries, explained by a battery manufacturer. By providing information about your car, it also recommends the correct model number to buy.


The points that are important for us, IMO, are

1) retention of gases because the battery resides within the cabin and we don’t want to breathe hydrogen sulfide gas,
2) retention of water so that the battery lasts a long time, and
3) the need to provide the correct charging circuitry (which the Volt has) that is designed to recharge an AGM-type battery rather than the regular lead-acid type battery.
B2AAA indicates that the scanner may not be able to read the Volt’s OBDII code correctly.
P1E00 can be triggered by a failing 12 Volt battery, as well as other things.
P1E00 is a request to check the Hybrid Powertrain Control Module 2 (HPCM2) for its codes.

I think that you need to replace the 12 V battery, drive the car for some distance and then recheck the OBDII for codes. I’m hoping that all the codes will then be gone.

EDIT: P1E00 should read "P0AF8 can be triggered by a failing 12 Volt battery, as well as other things."
B2AAA indicates that the scanner may not be able to read the Volt’s OBDII code correctly.
P1E00 can be triggered by a failing 12 Volt battery, as well as other things.
P1E00 is a request to check the Hybrid Powertrain Control Module 2 (HPCM2) for its codes.

I think that you need to replace the 12 V battery, drive the car for some distance and then recheck the OBDII for codes. I’m hoping that all the codes will then be gone.
Thank you so much!! I will do that. When I called the dealership, they told me that if it needs a new ion Lithium battery, they cost $13,000! That’s crazy! That’s more than my car is worth. What are people doing with their Volts when that battery dies???
Erk... I hope it's a spurious code from the 12v being old, but if it's not, it's definitely time for that flatbed. P0AF8 gets set when there's too much voltage difference between the onboard charger and the battery pack for the charging connection inside the car to be made safely. This is also one of the "latched high-voltage DTCs" that require special steps to turn off, so your local mechanic may not be able to clear it for you, even if it's spurious.

Here's what the code is claiming is going on: When the car needs to connect the battery to the high voltage wiring, it first has to charge up the wiring to the high voltage before it turns on the big switches to connect for full power. (If both sides of the switch are at CLOSE to the same high voltage, you get much smaller sparks when the switch connects. Big sparks are bad because they damage the switch.) If the battery is more than 12v from the charged-up circuit, it'll set that code and won't connect the charging circuit to the battery. If the charger voltage is more than 12v from the charged-up circuit (because the pre-charging failed), it'll set the same code, and won't connect the charger to the charging circuit. Same thing with the propulsion wiring between the battery and the powertrain electronics. If the precharge fails, it won't connect either end. If it's an actual REAL DTC and not some 12v-related junk, an EV-certified technician will have to check the wiring, and determine if it's the wiring, the battery, the drivetrain power module or the charger module that's a problem and replace the bad part. That's .... potentially expensive.
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Thank you very much. I don’t really understand what all that means, and I’m a widow now, so I don’t have anyone to talk to about this except you guys and the dealer. I called the towing company, and it will cost $200 each way for a flatbed to take my car to the dealer.

So let me ask you this: Should I take my 12 Volt battery to AutoZone first (before I have my car towed) and have them test it? It’s the original 2014 battery. The car beeps and the lights work, so I thought maybe it was fine. But if a new 12-Volt makes my car drivable, then I could drive it to the dealer I like and have them check it out thoroughly. Is it worth it to take my 12-Volt out and have Autozone test it? Thank you!!
Thank you! Oh, I hope it is only the 12-Volt battery. The guy at the towing company thinks it is something else (I can’t remember) but not the ion Lithium battery. He looked up the codes.
So let me ask you this: Should I take my 12 Volt battery to AutoZone first (before I have my car towed) and have them test it? It’s the original 2014 battery.
That battery is ten years old. Even if tests okay, it's old and on borrowed time by more than twice, and WILL fail shortly. The only reason you wouldn't replace it is if you're expecting to junk/sell the car. Which since a failed traction battery is one of the possible outcomes here, I don't want to remove as an option. Otherwise, I'd just say "No, replace it without even bothering to test it. It's due anyway."
I'm sorry for your loss, DogMom, but we'll try to be here for your support.

Food for thought: we both have nine-year-old cars. We know that the Gen1 was a well-designed and well-built car. We also know that the chances are that things will begin to fail as our cars continue to age. The gamble is in forecasting when one will outpace the other. What is your tolerance for aggravation and expense?

As I see things, Chevy dealers may not be interested in selling servicing on an older car whose build line was terminated nearly four years ago. Parts are becoming harder to acquire which means having a mechanic work on cars that then will sit on the lot and having customers disgruntled over not getting their cars back. Worse, the mechanic’s time spent will not be quickly covered and a profit made. Quoting high prices can make customers think about a new car. New cars have parts readily available and can quickly be repaired and out the door, freeing up a mechanic to make more of a profit for the Service Department. And the Sales Department has many new cars to chose from. They even have an electric Bolt!

With almost 174,000 miles on the odometer, I’ve been thinking for a year now of a new car before my Volt has an expensive failure and becomes almost worthless. If it weren’t for the fact that I make yearly multi-day, thousands-of-miles long road trips, I would seriously consider a Bolt as a replacement for my aging Volt. The prices are extremely reasonable for an electric car, and it qualifies for the maximum $7,500 tax credit (your state may offer additional monetary considerations). It is small, but I am single and need nothing larger. However, it is not a road car and so it is off my list of potential, new electric cars.

Consider the cost of the 12 V battery as being an insurance premium. ~$250 is not too high an outlay to find out what to do with your Volt and the time you have in which to make a decision.
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That battery is ten years old. Even if tests okay, it's old and on borrowed time by more than twice, and WILL fail shortly. The only reason you wouldn't replace it is if you're expecting to junk/sell the car. Which since a failed traction battery is one of the possible outcomes here, I don't want to remove as an option. Otherwise, I'd just say "No, replace it without even bothering to test it. It's due anyway."
Okay. That makes sense. Thank you.
This reminds me of another gearshift issue I've experienced this year. I've always preferred driving my 2014 Volt in Low instead of Drive. Twice this year, I've driven to work in the morning and had L act exactly like D. No issue on the way home and I'd forgotten about it by then.

The 12V battery had to be replaced in 2016 (dead after not driving for two weeks), sounds like it's probably time to change the 12V again before it causes inconveniences.

Heck, I bought a used Miata in 2020 and had to replace the battery in six months, then again a month ago. I suppose it's good that the second battery in the Volt has lasted nearly 7 years.
Interesting. I don’t ever remember changing my 12-volt battery in my 2014 Volt. Should I have it changed while it is at the dealership?

Just today I found out what the issue is with my car. Apparently the service advisor (a trainee) has been trying to call me for two days but had the last number of my phone number wrong. 🤦🏻‍♀️ I wish I had called them sooner.

I will find my notes and post what it is. It’s expensive, but fortunately it is not the ion Lithium battery. Whew!
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Interesting. I don’t ever remember changing my 12-volt battery in my 2014 Volt. Should I have it changed while it is at the dealership?
I'd be interested in what they say BUT... your 12 volt battery is WAY past its expiration date and I wouldn't trust much of anything else until there's a new battery in there for a while.

Think of it this way. The 12 volt battery runs all the brains in your car. The car is basically a computer and the 12 volt runs the computer. The big expensive battery provides power for the wheels.

If your battery is failing you'll get all sorts of random unexpected results from the computer and your car will do strange things. Most 12 volt batteries are expected to last about 5 years. Yours is 9 years old. It makes it HIGHLY likely that the battery just needs to be replaced. So until there's a new battery, don't believe anything the computer is telling you. If I lived nearby I'd run over and put it in for you.
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