GM-Volt: Chevy Volt Forum http://gm-volt.com/forum/ Chevy Volt Forum en Sat, 11 Feb 2012 11:50:11 GMT vBulletin 60 http://gm-volt.com/forum/images/misc/rss.png GM-Volt: Chevy Volt Forum http://gm-volt.com/forum/ Plug FREE Charging http://gm-volt.com/forum/showthread.php?11597-Plug-FREE-Charging&goto=newpost Fri, 10 Feb 2012 23:22:14 GMT Has anyone out there tried this Evatran charger? http://www.pluglesspower.com/ Looks interesting. Has anyone out there tried this Evatran charger?

http://www.pluglesspower.com/

Looks interesting. ]]> Volt Ownership Forum Fulgerite http://gm-volt.com/forum/showthread.php?11597-Plug-FREE-Charging Photos of Torklift Invisi Eco Hitch install http://gm-volt.com/forum/showthread.php?11595-Photos-of-Torklift-Invisi-Eco-Hitch-install&goto=newpost Fri, 10 Feb 2012 21:41:32 GMT After a false start and two wasted hours yesterday with a different shop, finally had the Torklift Invisi Hitch installed today by Leading Edge Auto... After a false start and two wasted hours yesterday with a different shop, finally had the Torklift Invisi Hitch installed today by Leading Edge Auto Body here in Baltimore. As I learned the hard way, an auto body shop is the best place to go for this kind of work, as removing the bumper is something they can do with ease.

Here are a few photos:









More photos in the next post. ]]> Chevy Volt Accessories, Modifications, and Hacks artsci http://gm-volt.com/forum/showthread.php?11595-Photos-of-Torklift-Invisi-Eco-Hitch-install Absurd 5 Year Costs to Own Numbers Out There http://gm-volt.com/forum/showthread.php?11594-Absurd-5-Year-Costs-to-Own-Numbers-Out-There&goto=newpost Fri, 10 Feb 2012 21:41:16 GMT http://www.marketwatch.com/story/kelley-blue-book-announces-inaugural-total-cost-of-ownership-award-winners-2012-02-08 Jeff, on February 9th in... http://www.marketwatch.com/story/kel...ers-2012-02-08

Jeff, on February 9th in your lead in story, you highlighted the below paragraph taken from the market watch story linked above. In this article from the Wall Street Journal, only the Leaf, Volt and a group of hybrids farther along in this story, post the Total Cost of Ownership in dollars.

“The Volt’s slightly lower maintenance and insurance costs gives it the competitive advantage, making it the 2012 Total Cost of Ownership Award winner in the Electric Car category,” wrote KBB in a press release, “The Chevrolet Volt has a five-year ownership cost expected to total $40,629, while the Nissan LEAF’s five-year expected total is $42,089 with all key costs to own a vehicle considered.”

“The number of hybrid models available to consumers continues to grow, offering more competitive choices. “In regard to Total Cost of Ownership, the top three hybrid models are all Honda vehicles,” said Flores. “Between the Honda Insight, CR-Z and Civic Hybrid, the Insight provides the best expected five-year costs at $32,884 for the initial ownership period. This model offers the lowest Fair Purchase Price, resulting in the lowest depreciation over time.”

…..absent are similar High Dollar Total Cost of Ownership of the other vehicles commented on in said article. That said, the dollar costs for both the Volt and Leaf seem outrageous especially in the absence of any other comparative figure.

The middle class in this country, the most likely to benefit from the Chevrolet Volt lease of from $349.00 a month.....will see these numbers above and run like hell missing this amazing lease arangement.

www.chevrolet.com/volt

But, let me dig through the KBB site and bring these up for you.

Let us first compare the 2012 Chevy Volt and the 2012 Audi A4.

Us News and World Reports has done this very well!


http://usnews.rankingsandreviews.com...-Midsize-Cars/



Below is the break out page for the 5 year Total Cost to Own, 2012Audi A4 Vs 2012 Chev Volt EREV.

The Volt on KBB

http://www.kbb.com/chevrolet/volt/20...category=sedan

( What is up with a first year Volt depreciation of $17,198.00-WHAT?? )


The Audi A4 on KBB

http://www.kbb.com/audi/a4/2012-audi...category=sedan


Volt Owners…..Does this seem seriously flawed or have I lost my Voltec mind? lol ]]> Chevy Volt News and Events Selling Volts At Sundance http://gm-volt.com/forum/showthread.php?11594-Absurd-5-Year-Costs-to-Own-Numbers-Out-There Toyota Fire Hazard Investigation Opened by NHTSA http://gm-volt.com/forum/showthread.php?11593-Toyota-Fire-Hazard-Investigation-Opened-by-NHTSA&goto=newpost Fri, 10 Feb 2012 19:48:36 GMT I have a feeling this won't receive as much coverage from certain news outlets as the Volt investigation. Even though it involves two orders of magnitude more vehicles. And real world examples.

http://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2...000-units.html ]]> Politics, Finance, and Environment dwl http://gm-volt.com/forum/showthread.php?11593-Toyota-Fire-Hazard-Investigation-Opened-by-NHTSA what button did I hit to make all the windows go down overnight in garage ? http://gm-volt.com/forum/showthread.php?11592-what-button-did-I-hit-to-make-all-the-windows-go-down-overnight-in-garage&goto=newpost Fri, 10 Feb 2012 18:04:45 GMT Parked the car in garage yesterday, plugged in the 110 Volts and went to bed. This am, all the windows are in down position, have no clue why. ... Parked the car in garage yesterday, plugged in the 110 Volts and went to bed.
This am, all the windows are in down position, have no clue why.

Any ideas ? ]]> Volt Ownership Forum swapdmyvette4this http://gm-volt.com/forum/showthread.php?11592-what-button-did-I-hit-to-make-all-the-windows-go-down-overnight-in-garage <![CDATA[less than 250 miles & being nagged for gas already]]> http://gm-volt.com/forum/showthread.php?11591-less-than-250-miles-amp-being-nagged-for-gas-already&goto=newpost Fri, 10 Feb 2012 18:02:20 GMT So can I run the gas out & not fill up & keep on electrifying (kind of like keep on trucking?)? Seems like with my low mileage, it should not need to run the generator yet. Will take away my bragging rights about not a drop of gas...lol. ]]> Volt Ownership Forum swapdmyvette4this http://gm-volt.com/forum/showthread.php?11591-less-than-250-miles-amp-being-nagged-for-gas-already Enterprise Rent-A-Car adds more EVs to its California fleet http://gm-volt.com/forum/showthread.php?11590-Enterprise-Rent-A-Car-adds-more-EVs-to-its-California-fleet&goto=newpost Fri, 10 Feb 2012 17:17:57 GMT The Enterprise rental office in Torrance, California will be adding a fleet of Nissan LEAFs and an on-site charging station, the company announced... The Enterprise rental office in Torrance, California will be adding a fleet of Nissan LEAFs and an on-site charging station, the company announced this week. Enterprise now offers both LEAFs and Volts at 11 locations in Southern California – the largest network of EV rentals in the state... Newswire > ]]> CHARGED Electric Vehicles Magazine CHARGED EVs Mag http://gm-volt.com/forum/showthread.php?11590-Enterprise-Rent-A-Car-adds-more-EVs-to-its-California-fleet What did you cross shop with the Volt? http://gm-volt.com/forum/showthread.php?11588-What-did-you-cross-shop-with-the-Volt&goto=newpost Fri, 10 Feb 2012 17:04:53 GMT Today's headline about the Volt being cross shopped with the Cruze got me thinking. What did you cross shop when buying your Volt?

Multiple choices are allowed in this poll.
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]]> Volt Ownership Forum MTN Ranger http://gm-volt.com/forum/showthread.php?11588-What-did-you-cross-shop-with-the-Volt Series hybrid vs. parallel hybrid vs. all-electric http://gm-volt.com/forum/showthread.php?11586-Series-hybrid-vs.-parallel-hybrid-vs.-all-electric&goto=newpost Fri, 10 Feb 2012 15:51:05 GMT In 1963 I built an ALL-ELECTRIC based on a VW that went 20 miles at a max speed of 40mph. It used lead-acid batteries - lots of them. A few years ago... In 1963 I built an ALL-ELECTRIC based on a VW that went 20 miles at a max speed of 40mph. It used lead-acid batteries - lots of them. A few years ago someone told me that my exalted golf cart is still running around somewhere. Why not? Since it's electric, and at those speeds undergoes little stress, it could last forever...

In Oct 2003 I bought one of the very first new-generation Prius, defined as a PARALLEL hybrid because both the engine and the motor could drive the wheels. A great car that kept every promise.

A few weeks ago I took delivery of a 2012 Volt. As far as I know, it's the first SERIES hybrid - it's an electric car with a substantial plug-innable battery, plus an onboard engine driving a charger.

In my obsolete engineer's mind, this is the peak of the automobile art. What other series hybrids are on the horizon to compete with GM? ]]> Electric Car Competitors notaguru http://gm-volt.com/forum/showthread.php?11586-Series-hybrid-vs.-parallel-hybrid-vs.-all-electric Conservatism and Fox News (opinion) http://gm-volt.com/forum/showthread.php?11585-Conservatism-and-Fox-News-(opinion)&goto=newpost Fri, 10 Feb 2012 15:14:36 GMT I was reading this today after a basic Google search of : "Conservative Values"

http://conservapedia.com/Conservative_values

Fox News, Rush L. and others who call themselves "conservatives" actually do not fit the values listed in this web page. They fail on quite a few fronts. If they followed all the values above, they would probably support the Volt and EVs in general with an open mind rather than their current narcissistic opinions. ]]> Politics, Finance, and Environment bonaire http://gm-volt.com/forum/showthread.php?11585-Conservatism-and-Fox-News-(opinion) VW Lightning Bug http://gm-volt.com/forum/showthread.php?11584-VW-Lightning-Bug&goto=newpost Fri, 10 Feb 2012 15:04:36 GMT This is conceptually a great car. My wife would buy this in a heartbeat to replace her Jetta Diesel. If there were a big cry of support for the car,... This is conceptually a great car. My wife would buy this in a heartbeat to replace her Jetta Diesel. If there were a big cry of support for the car, maybe they'd actually make it? Not sure. VW can be surprising sometimes but they move rather slowly on most days.

Cool car though. And I love the name.
http://wheels.blogs.nytimes.com/2012...ric-e-bugster/ ]]> Electric Car Competitors magnushawk http://gm-volt.com/forum/showthread.php?11584-VW-Lightning-Bug Interior Maintenance http://gm-volt.com/forum/showthread.php?11583-Interior-Maintenance&goto=newpost Fri, 10 Feb 2012 05:07:03 GMT What is the best method of cleaning the center stack/view screens? I am quite sure that one would not use any sort of "common house hold cleaners"! ]]> Volt Ownership Forum dbzimp http://gm-volt.com/forum/showthread.php?11583-Interior-Maintenance <![CDATA[VIDEO: Gigaom's first look at Tesla Model X]]> http://gm-volt.com/forum/showthread.php?11582-VIDEO-Gigaom-s-first-look-at-Tesla-Model-X&goto=newpost Fri, 10 Feb 2012 04:39:19 GMT ...]]> Gigaom's Katie Fehrenbacher sat down with Elon Musk this afternoon to talk Model X... Newswire > ]]> CHARGED Electric Vehicles Magazine CHARGED EVs Mag http://gm-volt.com/forum/showthread.php?11582-VIDEO-Gigaom-s-first-look-at-Tesla-Model-X Hello from the San Francisco Bay Area http://gm-volt.com/forum/showthread.php?11581-Hello-from-the-San-Francisco-Bay-Area&goto=newpost Fri, 10 Feb 2012 03:04:51 GMT Hey all, My Volt got built yesterday!!! 02/08/2012 - (3800) Order produced and vehicle is being prepared for shipping. For Cadillac, GMC and... Hey all,

My Volt got built yesterday!!!

02/08/2012 - (3800) Order produced and vehicle is being prepared for shipping. For Cadillac, GMC and Buick customers, please contact your dealer or customer service for further updates as no further updates available at this time.

However, my dilemma is choosing between the Volt and the BMW ActiveE.

Noel ]]> Newcomers Noel L http://gm-volt.com/forum/showthread.php?11581-Hello-from-the-San-Francisco-Bay-Area Spokesperson For Volt/Recurring Commercials http://gm-volt.com/forum/showthread.php?11580-Spokesperson-For-Volt-Recurring-Commercials&goto=newpost Fri, 10 Feb 2012 02:55:01 GMT We need a recurring line of commercials having a significant person representing the Volt. In a light and fun mode, I vote for the cast of "The Big Bang Theory", taking an advanced high level of technology and making it fun for the general public. ]]> Volt Ownership Forum iamapt http://gm-volt.com/forum/showthread.php?11580-Spokesperson-For-Volt-Recurring-Commercials